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[-] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 4 months ago

Well, stop breeding them. Solved.

[-] photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 4 months ago

Sheep genocide! Woohoo!

Even if we stop, what do we do with the ones we still have? Sanctuaries for millions of animals are far too expensive.

How about we keep shearing them and let them graze under our solar?

[-] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 4 months ago

You can't, and I'm not recommending, get rid of sheep overnight. That's a scenario you made up on your own.

If you would castrate all domestic sheep today, that would be akin to what we do to cats and dogs. Slowly the population would dwindle.

[-] CottonSeed@slrpnk.net -5 points 4 months ago
[-] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 4 months ago

People who kill and exploit animals every day are always so ready to defend animals. Raising animals for killing, even if you take their wool during their lives, is genocide.

[-] CottonSeed@slrpnk.net 1 points 4 months ago

word have meaning and by diluting "genocide" you are being dishonest and cheapening real genocides

[-] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 4 months ago

The problem is that we don't have a word for when we commit genocide, but then force-breed the same population to prevent it from extinction, only to repeat the killing again. A perpetual holocaust. We have some euphemisms like "breeding" and "husbandry" that focus of the reproduction but not in the killing. I'm open to suggestions.

[-] CottonSeed@slrpnk.net 1 points 4 months ago
[-] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 4 months ago
[-] CottonSeed@slrpnk.net 1 points 4 months ago

one of it's specific meanings is raising animals for food or other products.

[-] photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 4 months ago

Raising animals to harvest is cruel and unusual punishment but it isn't genocide. Genocide is the systematic and widespread extermination of a specific group. The fact that livestock animals outnumber us and their numbers are only growing should tell you we're not genociding them. Words have meaning.

[-] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 4 months ago

Gonna quote my own comment to another user:

The problem is that we don't have a word for when we commit genocide, but then force-breed the same population to prevent it from extinction, only to repeat the killing again. A perpetual holocaust. We have some euphemisms like "breeding" and "husbandry" that focus of the reproduction but not in the killing. I'm open to suggestions

[-] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

it's not punishment. we aren't assigning moral agency.

[-] madcaesar@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

The guy you're arguing with is the reason so many people simply tune out animal activists. He reminds me of the hippy character from Futurama on the poppers episode 😂

[-] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 4 months ago

You mean using reason and compassion? Yes, it's a horrible trait of animal rights activists.

[-] photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 4 months ago

What you're using isn't reason. It comes from a good place, I'm sure, but your arguments aren't reasonable.

[-] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 4 months ago

Just because you disagree does not make them unreasonable

[-] photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 months ago

Your solutions are unreasonable. Nobody is going to finance rehoming and caring for billions of livestock animals. We can't even do that for our own species.

[-] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I never suggested rethinking rehoming. I never once said that.

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