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I think this should be posted as a comment to every article about this.
Someone needs to make a drawing of it because when he originally said it he opened his mouth wide and through his head back like was a literal puppet
I'm surprised nobody saw his forked lizard tongue when that happened!
It's right there in the 4th paragraph of the article itself.
You mean you actually read the article? Blasphemy!
Somebody has to do the dirty work.
What's it say? Go find yourself? Go Fill yourself? IDK is this some game you Americans have where you have to guess the word, because the amount of pearl clutching is just too insane in America?
Ah yes that's the amazing freedom of speech Americans are so proud of, except they don't actually have it, they are just indoctrinated to think so.
My god American regulation is so idiotic sometimes!!!
There's no regulation, we can and do say fuck without any problem. Some people prefer not to swear either for personal, social, or religious reasons. They chose to self censor not because they had to but because they wanted to. You're reading an awful fucking lot into a random ass image some anonymous user posted in a comment.
Can confirm, am American and try to avoid swearing, not because there are penalties (friends, coworkers, etc swear all the time), but because I don't like swearing. I find it makes me an angrier person, so I just don't do it.
If you want to swear, go for it, it really won't offend me. But I won't swear in return. Different strokes for different folks.
There’s so goddamn much to swear about in these fucking times we live in that I really respect anyone who can still hold their shit together enough not to.
Or if you're someone who uses speech to text on your phone. Nearly every system that I've ever used asterisks out everything after the first letter. It can be a lot of extra effort to go back and fill the fucks in. But if there's one fucking thing worth doing fucking right. Fucking filling out those fat fucking fucks is fucking it. It's one of the most fucking versatile words on the planet. It can be a fucking adjective, one of the most versatile verbs no matter what fucked up tense you choose, and even a motherfucking noun.
Sorry your phone/ textingapp does what? What app/ phone do you use? Ive never encountered or even heard about that
They're not talking about texting apps, it's keyboards and speech to text engines that often have a profanity filter, which usually is on by default.
I disable it on everything every time I change phones or format, but not everybody tinkers with settings.
You probably default to a keyboard without profanity filter.
Ahh ok
Not on public TV you can't. Beep beep beep Fucking idiots.
You can, most networks just decide not to. Broadcast TV (which hasn't really existed for I think more than a decade now) had restrictions about swearing (and other content) enforced by the FCC as it used a public good (RF bands). Cable TV (and now streaming services) are and pretty much have always been unregulated.
TV Networks, being companies trying to make money, opt to self censor so as to appeal to the largest number of viewers, but that isn't anything to do with the government, it's 100% a business decision.
https://www.tvguide.com/news/features/tv-censorship-nudity-profanity/
Yeah that entire article basically agreed with everything I said. Technically broadcast TV does have some limitations enforced by the FCC (because it uses radio to transmit) even to this day, but broadcast TV is basically dead. I actually thought they had shut those stations down a few years ago, but I guess they're still around. Regardless there are absolutely no government regulations that control what's shown on cable and streaming services. 100% of censorship that occurs there is a business decision by the TV Networks and has absolutely nothing to do with the government.
Dude, some person made that meme, and that person chose to use asterisks. It's no more complicated than that.
Apparently our ability to figure out a word from context is pretty much higher than yours though.
What the f*** dude calm down.
Welcome to the hypocritical world of Puritan culture.
Some of the earliest British settlers in the US were so extremist that the Church of England kicked them out after they tried to assassinate the king and replace him with a puppet of their own to force their beliefs on the rest of the country.
It was partly these crazies that started the whole sex and bodies=bad and shameful thing in the US that advertisers still believe in today. And swearing is yet another of those weird things. But sex sells, so it's okay to imply it as long as it's selling a product and no other time.
You think that's bad, get this. In most US states (47), public school students are required by law to recite the Pledge of Allegiance to the flag of the United States once per school day, though...for most of those states...students may opt themselves out.
However, in four states (Texas, Florida, Pennsylvania, and Utah), students may not opt themselves out. The school must receive a written statement from a parent or guardian in order to be exempt.
I have taught in Texas public schools since 2005, and I brought this up with an attorney for the teacher organization I joined (not a union as Texas bans collective bargaining for state employees, so our dues are really not much more than lawsuit insurance). He told me that, in the eyes of the state courts, children under the age of eighteen not being yet adults do not enjoy the same right to freedom of speech that adults do. Hence, in the eyes of the courts, a school district would be within their rights to fire a teacher who does not do their part to ensure all students under their purview recite the Pledge during the time it is spoken over the school's PA system (and the Pledge to the Texas state flag, also mandatory), 1st Amendment be damned.
Thankfully, I got a gig teaching in Oregon next year, so I am heading northwest (through the also miserable states of Utah and Idaho unfortunately) and never looking back.
Ah Texas, where children can't make decisions or be held accountable in any way, unless they're brown skinned and can be accused of a crime, then they must he tried as adults and sentenced to life as an imprisoned slave.
This Oregon?
https://rop.org/uia/section-i/oregons-hard-right-history/
You don't want to play this game with me, son. Whatever you hurl at me about Oregon, I'll lob back at you something twice as bad about Texas.
I get that Oregon has its hard right people. Hell, most states do. But at least my trans kids gender identity is protected by state law, and my having a trans kid won't result in me being on the governor's fucking hit list.
What are you talking about? There is no law or regulation requiring that text to be censored. They did it because they wanted to.
You're reading into things way too much here, man.
“For the children “ …. Like none of them have ever heard bad words…. They must be protected at all cost.
Like a person who likes to grab them by the pussy…
Yes and they may actually reelect that criminal traitor malignant narcissist SOB! .
That's the the country that refuses to regulate guns despite massive amounts of school shootings, but won't allow words to be written or said because that is apparently more harmful than bullets!!!
It's absolute insanity.
I'm not the one who ~~told~~ corrected you earlier, but ket me reiterate...
You are incorrect in your assumption that our "country," government, etc. censors our speech. Some people choose to self-censor and the government has nothing to do with that.
Also, you seem confused about what free speech (see: first amendment) actually means. This XKCD might help explain it to you.
The government does actually censor broadcast television and radio. I can’t remember why they’re allowed to.
Swear words? Boobs? Hell nah
Someone getting shot ten times? PG-13
I think it's hilarious that there are swear budgets for various ratings. I'm pretty sure adults can tell whether a movie is intended for kids or not, and they're the most sensitive to foul language.
I personally choose to not swear, but I watch and listen to plenty of content with vulgar language of all varieties, it really doesn't bother me, so I don't see why it's so taboo in movie ratings...
What are we not allowed to say, exactly?
Ha you don't even know, that so funny. Look up freedom of speech index, and see the difference to countries that have better freedom of speech than USA.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Press_Freedom_Index
I didn't ask about any indices, I asked what you think we're not allowed to say.
For instance in schools you are not allowed to talk about gender identity in some states.
Often you are not allowed to teach about slavery either.
You are also often not allowed as a teacher or just working at the school to say if you anything other than straight.
That would actually be illegal to enforce in countries with better protected freedom of speech.
One school banned a graphic novel Maus about holocaust despite it has won a Pulitzer.
Aaron Swartz was persecuted by authorities to the point of suicide for legally copying and trying to make information available to the public, that should by definition of the terms they were kept, be available to the public, but were not.
In the military you are not allowed to say you are gay.
The terrorist acts has secret courts giving secret organisations power to silence companies on for instance when information is demanded on users from companies like Google, Facebook, Microsoft Apple, also when the demands are illegal by normal law, generally because they are too wide. Other often targeted companies are also mail services with increased security. This is monitored by a secret club in congress. This is part of what Obama called a "balanced" approach.
Failure to respect these secret courts, will result in you being judged by same secret courts!!!
You are not even allowed to seek outside council or mention it to anybody for help on what to do.
In much the same way there are restriction on the "free" press, which make it impossible for the press to air concerns. This is probably why you have a multitude of stories like this:
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/05/02/most-u-s-journalists-are-concerned-about-press-freedoms/
What's notable is that the more experience a journalist has, the more likely he is aware there's a problem. But there are no specifics on exactly what the problems are.
On public TV you cannot air profanity:
https://www.tvguide.com/news/features/tv-censorship-nudity-profanity/
Beep beep beep, it's so incredibly stupid!!!!
So maybe the meme was self censored, but it was out of a habit of doing so because in some situations you MUST, meaning your freedom of speech is restricted. By doing so on the meme, it parrots more official channels.
USA is probably the most censored country of the free world they claim to protect, and you don't even know it!?!?!
Which still has fuck-all to do with the asterisks in the picture, because the creator put those there himself
Say stupid things, people treat you like you're stupid, stupidly cry about how freedom of speech should prevent people from treating you like the idiot you are.
Fuck you, Jack.