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[–] Objection@lemmy.ml -2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yes, which it is. What does that have to do with anything you said?

[–] nexguy@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Because his voice/health has absolutely nothing to do with the election and shouldn't change any vote from Biden since his health is of no consequence whatsoever.

[–] Tryptaminev@lemm.ee 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

since his health is of no consequence whatsoever.

Uhm yes? That is the entire point. It is a stressfull job and you need to be at full mental and sufficient physical capacity to handle it. Biden showed that he is not up to it anymore. Trump also is starting to show signs of decline, but he is further ahead of the curve than Biden is.

Either candidate is unfit for office, but for Biden health is the crucial issue. And old age is not something you can recover from. Just statistically it is entirely reasonable to expect either one of them to die in office.

[–] nexguy@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

In the unique situation that the country finds itself in with an authoritarian destructive candidate is that any mid alternative is golden. In any other election then less important things like the health of the leader of one of the parties(pres candidate) does matter.

In our situation if the mid party leader dies then he is replaced by another mid. The identity of the mid is of no consequence at all.

[–] Tryptaminev@lemm.ee 3 points 4 months ago

The identity of the mid is of no consequence at all.

And that is why Trump won in the first place in 2016. This line of thinking does not work. People are rightfully scared of seeing a weak old men being put up to run the most powerful and most dangerous country in the world. And people cannot feel that voting for Biden will be the right choice, because our animal brains rightfully demand a leader to have the qualities of a leader.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml -1 points 4 months ago

We weren't talking about the election or who to vote for, we were talking about his health. You can say that his health isn't relevant to the question of who you should vote for, but you're the one who brought that up in the first place. I'm just responding to a lie.

It's literally just whataboutism, or a non sequitur. If a Trump supporter says something objectively false and I correct them, it would not a valid response for them to bring up problems with Biden in response to that. In the same way, if a Biden supporter says something objectively false and I correct them, then it is not valid to respond to that by talking about problems with Trump.

I'm allowed to keep you people honest, even if acknowledging reality is inconvenient for your narratives or goals.