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Conservatives joke that progressives just blow with the wind from one controversy to the next. But I can't help but notice the anti-Biden "left" shifted hard from Genocide Joe to Bad debate Performance without skipping a beat or looking back.

Almost like the people stoking these fires don't really care about left issues at all.

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[–] jwiggler@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I mean, regardless of whether you personally believe Biden is doing well as President, that doesn't necessarily have anything to do with the general population's disposition toward him. And also, I just averaged the spread of each general election poll listed on that site, all of which have Trump leading.The number came out to 4.63%. That's kinda a far cry from 1.5% that you mentioned.

Let me be clear. I do not want Trump to win. Please do not put that in my mouth. Thinking he will win and actively hoping and voting for him are not the same. I do not want to be right in my feeling that he will win.

Why try something that's never been done before? Well, I think Trump broke politics already. We are already in unprecedented territory regarding presidential power, this particular election being between two previous Presidents, etc, so I personally don't think the "established norm" argument holds too much water. And then you have my other arguments: The polls aren't looking good, and we just came off a terrible debate performance.

This isn't all to say another candidate would definitely beat Trump, or that I even think it's a good idea to get someone else in there. But I don't think it's a silly or idiotic to want that, as it seems you're making it out. I can empathize with people who feel that way, because I am also frustrated with having to choose Biden.

I was just wondering why you think its so silly, and I guess the answer is, "because it's never been done before." Thanks for responding.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Actually i think the ‘why do this’ question about a replacement isn’t much about it hasn’t been done before. I think it’s more to do with custom and party politics. To a very large degree Biden leads the DNC and there would need to be a huge show of support to get him to step aside that I think people are not really interested in doing.

Once again the benefits of being a selfish, power-hungry, assholish party are given to republiQans. Hell they’ll throw each other under the bus for fun. But the DNC isn’t like that.

That may change. I’m watching Obama, if he says something that’s the sign they’re making a move, but absent that I tend to doubt it.

[–] jwiggler@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I definitely agree with all that. I think its highly highly unlikely Biden steps aside. I guess I was trying to get at why OP thinks it's so silly that a person would think that another candidate has a better shot of beating Trump.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

Huh. I took your position as the opposite of that ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Okay - well, sorry - agree! Moving on 😄

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] jwiggler@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Oops, I didn't see that they had a weighted average there, I literally just counted the spread and divided. Well that's better than I thought, but I'm still just not feeling good about November.

You can laugh me off, but I think even the fact that there are mainstream publications coming out with articles about the logistics of replacing Biden shows it's, while not probably in any sense, still a thing on many people's minds. I still empathize with those people and don't think they're laughable. But thank you for correcting me.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world -2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I don't think I've laughed you off yet.

[–] jwiggler@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago

Nah, you haven't, I appreciate that