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An Important Distinction [Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal] (www.smbc-comics.com)

submitted 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) by kersploosh@sh.itjust.works to c/comicstrips@lemmy.world

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An old comic that feels oh so relevant in this tumultuous election year.

Source: https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/an-important-distinction

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[–] dragontamer@lemmy.world 23 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Good luck building up a coalition of people who will cooperate with you.

And worse: good luck politically defeating those who are smart enough to use basic psychology to coordinate the masses. Its not evil to do so, its just practicality. We know how people act and how they think. Its not so hard to then use psychology and sociology to build up our own coalitions.

As Terry Pratchett wrote in The Hogfather : We tell little likes like Santa Clause because we're training children to believe in the big lies like Truth and Justice. And only when we all believe in that stuff can it possibly work. "We're the best country in the world" is part of that, its a little lie that helps smooth over problems and helps us work together. And in my experience, its effective at it.

[–] zloubida@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You know, I'm not particularly intelligent. If I (and you apparently) understood that nations are a manipulation of the masses, everyone can. Thus we could create a coalition against nationalism and patriotism quite easily, but schools and medias are spreading their propaganda.

[–] dragontamer@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Except I'm not against manipulation of the masses. I'm tacitly for it, because if I don't manipulate them, someone else will.

Leaving the masses to be manipulated by Trump (or other bad actors) is obviously a bad idea. If you haven't noticed by the last 10 years of US Politics.

The reality is that 30%+ of the country (the current Trump voter base) accepts manipulation and embraces it. Its a huge cohort and a resource that can be turned to my side. Maybe not all of them, but its more than you or most people ever realized. And furthermore, anyone else who is intelligent and on my side about it will also join me and see that we have a winning strategy.

What's your strategy exactly? You want to try to beat back human psychology one-person at a time and deprogram on a mass scale? Good luck with that. I'm not sure I've seen a successful argument that breaks through the psychological games being played out here.