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[–] Rinna@lemm.ee 53 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (6 children)

Maybe not outright illegal, but I think it should be heavily regulated. I've heard way too many stories of kids being raised in isolation and barely being taught even basic math under the guise of homeschooling.

[–] Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Homeschooling is allowed in my country, but they have to take exams in front of a jury to prove they have been properly schooled.

[–] VirtualOdour@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I think you mean invidulator, everyone knows what you mean just trying to be helpful. That's an officially appointed watcher at exams, a jury is a team of people who give a verdict in a legal case.

And yeah that's the best way for sure, some places have mandatory participation in community events too which i think is good

[–] Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 4 months ago

No, you seem to be describing someone who supervises an exam. What I mean is a committee/inspection that decides if the homeschooling meets the objectives set by the governments and that the student has a sufficient understanding of the teachings.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 24 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

barely being taught even basic math under the guise of homeschooling.

yah that was me.

There was no actual "schooling" it was just a cover-story so people didn't pry and learn that my parents were too crazy/drunk/high/delusional to properly raise children. The first couple decades of my life I basically just wandered in the desert alone around my parent's "religious compound" a couple hours from the nearest town and tried to get my hands on any actual scientific or rational reading material that extended family members managed to smuggle in.

It had disastrous impact on my adult life. I did go to school later and excelled and soared through AP college classes... but with my life so handicapped from the start, I was unable to continue higher education due to poverty, unable to land a stable career, and worst of all, severe depression and anxiety from the CPTSD of basically spending 20 years of my most important developmental years isolated with two toxic, hateful, abusive parents and literally NOBODY else. I became non-verbal for years, people thought I was autistic. I have been in and out of therapy, on and off meds, and have had long, extended struggles with substance abuse, depression so bad I can't move some days, and thoughts of self-harm.

My parents were absolutely convinced that biblical prophecy was real and was about to be fulfilled, they saw themselves as actual prophets or chosen ones that would play a part in the coming apocalypse, and for years of my life I was also convinced that I was part of some greater destiny.

Fast forward through my adult life, and I'm clearing out my parent's belongings after they drank themselves to death, wondering what the fuck happened and what my real future is going to look like. Do you think AI is going to replace grocery baggers? Because I fully see myself at 80 bagging groceries.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 19 points 4 months ago (2 children)

My brother and sisiter-in-law briefly did "homeschooling" with their kids. I put the word in scare quotes because it wasn't what people normally think of when they consider homeschooling. It was actually a private school which the kids went to four days a week and then one day a week the parents guided the kids at home through a lesson plan prepared by the school. The only point of this was that it allowed the school to hire non-accredited and non-union teachers since it was ostensibly homeschooling and not a normal school.

At least it saved the parents money, right? Ha ha nope! Still expensive as shit - like $30K per year per kid.

[–] uis@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Ha ha nope! Still expensive as shit - like $30K per year per kid.

Right, universal education is not a thing in ~~USSA~~ American Empire.

[–] sinedpick@awful.systems 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)
[–] Natanael@slrpnk.net 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 4 months ago

That comes with the territory of not being relevant to short term corporate profits and also being paid for by taxes. Though if and how underfunded depends on the county, since it's usually paid for primarily by local property taxes.

[–] psmgx@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I mean it's not free -- it's funded by property taxes in most US states.

States have different ways of adding more cash to funding; CO and WA for example put a ton of their weed tax money to roads and schools

[–] uis@lemm.ee 3 points 4 months ago

Free as in freedom. But underfunded.

[–] uis@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago

At least as not as bad as healthcare

[–] nomous@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Homeschooling can be great if you have the time/ability but the parents do need to take it seriously and hire tutors in areas they're less familiar with. There definitely needs to be proctored testing to make sure kids aren't just being taught weird religious doctrine and nothing else.

[–] BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Facebook groups for homschooling moms are fucking wild. To be fair you never know who's trolling there, because if you want to fool someone, you fool someone that is very easy to fool.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago

And honestly, that’s the most important reason for public school: it makes kids less naive

[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

There's a family I saw on Facebook who had their ten kids apprehended and adopted out for beating them with a switch and not actually educating them in home school. Thankfully the kids are doing well.

[–] gingernate@lemm.ee 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Haha well I have 9 brothers and sisters and we were homeschooled and in a cult. Crazy shit. We are all out and doing well now thankfully

[–] r3df0x@7.62x54r.ru 2 points 4 months ago

It should be child abuse to home school autistic kids. I've seen what it does to them.

Instead of public schools, we should have school choice.