Uh nope. If you followed satisfactory then you'd know that's absolutely not true. They've continuously added features, worked with the community, and now they're finally publishing the finished polished product.

With all the hate companies for being in perma EA, you'd think gamers would be happy when games leave EA. Nope, apparently gamers are just mad no matter what.

[–] Poppenlockenheimmer@lemm.ee 7 points 4 months ago

While I agree with you here that Coffee Stain is a shining example of what EA should be and how it should be utilized, I think you can also understand OPs cynicism given the state of affairs. I don't think it's entirely fair to jump straight "to all gamers are mad no matter what" but I certainly empathize with your frustrations regarding the apparently implacable nature of the community.

My intention is not to tone police, I just think conversations like these would be more productive if they were less antagonistic.

[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

EA just means "we released unfinished and we're still working on it". Because factually that's what it is.

So Coffee Stain:

Released a game quite unfinished (but still fun, don't get me wrong!).
Actually invested the time and money to get it finished and fix it up after release.

[+] slumberlust@lemmy.world -16 points 4 months ago (3 children)

So you agree EA is being abused across the industry but it's 'angry' to ask if that's the case here?

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 19 points 4 months ago

You didn't ask, you accused them of it, and they definitely don't deserve the accusation. If you had asked, I would have responded that actually no, they've done an amazing job all through EA, and should be a model for games going forward

[–] Poppenlockenheimmer@lemm.ee 10 points 4 months ago

Not the person who responded to you but:

Your first post is a bit ambiguous. On initial reading it seemed to me that you were accusing Coffee Stain specifically of abusing the EA system to manipulate sales, but I can also see how your intent may have been more general and broadly directed.

In either case, you didn't "ask" anything so it is a bit disingenuous to imply that you did.

The person who responded to you may simply be exasperated with the state of the gaming community, and it seems you are similarly disillusioned with the state of development. In either case, both of you seem to have some justifiable frustrations that are being misdirected. It's important to call out the bad behavior of devs, and it's important to recognize the ones who are doing things the right way. I think it's equally important to be civil.

The gaming industry has become just that - an industry worth over 200 billion dollars, and the industry leaders do not have the best interests of the gaming community at heart. The amount of infighting and snark among the community does not serve us. Community action can have enormous impact, as seen recently with the Helldivers 2 PSN debacle. It is in our best interest to elevate the level of discourse in our community and leave the barbs to the in-game match chat.

K, that's my soapbox, sorry if it came across preachy, it's just a topic that's important to me.