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[–] NutWrench@lemmy.world 46 points 5 months ago (7 children)

I already ditched Windows for Linux a month ago because of spyware. Everything Google-related is next. My phone is going to be the hardest thing to de-infest.

[–] flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago (2 children)

In my experience you either have to trade one devil for the other with Apple or accept buying hardware from the ad company so you can use GrapheneOS.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 16 points 5 months ago (1 children)

There are more options than GrapheneOS with broader device support, such as Calyx or LineageOS.

But if you use Android already, you can start by using F-Droid (or others) to install apps to find FOSS replacements for apps you use.

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Searching for "Calyx" got me a lot of results that had nothing to do with the Android ROM, so for the convenience of anyone else reading this thread their URL is https://calyxos.org/

[–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 3 points 5 months ago

You could always go the used/refurbished route to not directly give the chocolate factory money

[–] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I already ditched Windows for Linux a month ago because of spyware.

Great!

Everything Google-related is next.

Even better.

My phone is going to be the hardest thing to de-infest.

If you plan on getting a new phone soon, I recommend a Google Pixel, on which you can install GrapheneOS. Yes, ironically Google devices are the best for installing alternative operating systems and removing all the Google BS. GrapheneOS is completely free and open source, and based on the Android Open Source Project. It incorporates many privacy and security enhancements, and gives you total freedom and control over your device. In my opinion, it's the best option for degoogling a phone.

[–] Emerald@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

There is also Lineage OS. It's not as secure but it is compatible with the most amount of devices.

[–] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Unfortunately LineageOS is highly insecure because there's no ability to lock the bootloader, and Android Verified Boot is completely missing. These are just the biggest and most obvious flaws in Lineage, but there are more: https://madaidans-insecurities.github.io/android.html#lineageos

[–] Emerald@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Android is a very secure system, but that comes with some compromises such as customizability and development features. Both of which are important to the Lineage OS project. Also running Lineage OS is not any more insecure then running a Linux or Windows desktop without secure boot, which many people do without issue

[–] enleeten@discuss.online 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Kagi is a great replacement for Google search. It does cost money though.

[–] Emerald@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

Or you can take a Duck. Then get one more Duck. Then you can Go.

https://duckduckgo.com

[–] moonburster@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I kinda want to, but I'm also a sucker for ease of use

[–] Tywele@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

For ease of use Apple might be the most convenient alternative to Google. At least for smartphones.

[–] moonburster@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Ease of use and apple are not near each other in my dictionary.

I think a lot of things are designed very unlogical

[–] Tywele@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That might be because you are just not used to it. Comparable to the switch from Windows to Linux.

[–] moonburster@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm using Linux and tried different distros. I also used chrome os and windows Phone. I tried ios, hence my feelings towards it

[–] Tywele@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

And many people tried Linux and were having difficulties adapting to it at first and most probably gave up. Just like you did with iOS.

[–] moonburster@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Pff, sure buddy. Used it for 4 months due to my phone being dead. Go shill someone else. If the adoption of a new os goes against what I want of said os, then it's not an os for me. Simple as that

[–] Tywele@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 5 months ago

I don't care what you use. I was just arguing in support of OSes that people dismiss because they are unfamiliar with it. Calm down.

[–] nossaquesapao 7 points 5 months ago

Welcome to the world of freedom. The first months may be a bit uncomfortable, but it's a journey worth taking. Be welcome!

[–] asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I'm also doing this. Proton is amazing, for the most part. Ente Photos is also incredible for ditching Google Photos, although I'll probably switch to Proton Photos when that comes out since Ente is pricey.

[–] pathief@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Isn't proton photos built into their Proton Drive already? It's implementation is.. barebones... On Android but it works.

[–] asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

It is, but I'd barely consider it a launch of anything. It displays photos, but that's it. I could already upload and view photos on Proton Drive before they "launched" this.

[–] Tywele@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 months ago

Or if you have the skills you can selfhost Immich which is an excellent replacement for Google Photos.

[–] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Honestly I just keep my phone as my designated privacy nightmare so I can get free phone calls on wifi and keep in touch with family members who are still on facebook.