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Wealthy nations are purchasing vaccines against H5N1 influenza and boosting surveillance, but there are concerns that low-income countries will be left behind.

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[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 83 points 4 months ago (2 children)
[–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 17 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I don't know, I'm sure we can be doing more but it seems like there is at least vaccine development and such starting pretty early so that seems positive to me.

[–] RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 4 months ago (1 children)

There's no development needed. We got a vaccine as this is not a new strain. Flu vaccines just in general aren't that great, so you need good coverage and enough doses. You can probably tell where I am going with this, I am not sure any country is procuring or producing enough vaccines for the worst case scenario.

[–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 15 points 4 months ago (1 children)

None needed but I think there is a new mRNA vaccine being developed now. Your point remains though because it's all moot if we don't have doses when we need them.

[–] ZagamTheVile@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Or, you know, get enough people to get them.

[–] Gsus4@programming.dev 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Just let people sign liability waivers. You wanna go party during a pandemic and not take the vaccine? Ok, sign this and you're free to go.

But if you end up in hospital, you will automatically be behind everyone in line for care if there is triage. If they insist so much on personal responsibility, then give it to them: do you want to have access to modern healthcare or not?

[–] Shapillon@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

It still means that much more potential carriers and that much more odds of any inconvenient mutation happening.

I'd advocate for the Frencg method: in case of a measle epidemic, vaccination is mandated by law and cops can just simply knock at your door and grab your ass ^^

[–] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 months ago

This would work in the US if insurance companies did it.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Alright......but, have you not been paying attention the past 4 years? Half this country (USA) REFUSES to get vacinated. I feel like at this point earth has just had enough of humans. So now it's like "ok, covid killed 1 million of them. Lets do that.....again."

And here's the thing, humans as a collective don't learn. There are comics from the early 1900s making fun of the people who refuse to wear masks to help against an often forgotten about global pandemic that killed like 20% of people globally. Your body would turn blue, because your insides filled with fluids, and you literally drown from with inside your own body. Morgues and hospitals were overflowing with bodies. People still refused to wear masks, and take medicine.

Now I don't trust these precautions to work, until they are vast and manditory. I'm at the point where people need to be treated like children. Actually thats not true. 4 years ago when the vaccine for came out, my niece was 8 years old. She got the vacine of her own decision, and said "that was nothing!". Which is true.

So basically I think some children are more mature than vast swarms of the general public, and this means simply releasing a vaccine isn't NEARLY enough.

[–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Well, I'd love to say I disagree with you but I think even just the last few years would prove you right. Let's just hope we don't have any outbreak that means we have to be at the mercy of other people's psychosis again.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Well, buckle up. Because 2024 is an election year. And even if you don't live in the USA, our dumbassery still affects the rest of the world. Just as Chinas corruption affected the world in 2019/2020.

And election year + devisive topic = idiots acting on emotion rather than logic.

[–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I don't live in the US but if Trump gets in there's a decent chance it will directly put my family in danger. I have no control over that though so I try not to think about it too much.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Is it sad that really doesn't narrow down where you live that trump would put you in danger?

I mean, it could be Ukraine. It could be Mexico. I don't even know what his thoughts on Isreal/Gaza are, but I assume his opinions on that are shit as well.

Hell, you might even live in Greenland. He tried to buy Greenland again, and rename it to trumpland.

His ego knows no bounds, and his empathy is nonexistant.

[–] macrocephalic@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The sad part is that I bet he couldn't point to most of those countries on a map

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

"Why is America so small on this map? Why are we not the only country? People tell me, no it's it's true, they do, they say America is the only country on the map. Everybody knows it. Our maps are yuge. We have the best maps. You know in the 1980s, I was going to buy a map making factory. All the jobs would stay in America, instead of going to ChGina. We would print all the maps if I did that. Everybody would want a trump map. That's what they'd call it, because everybody loves me. And then I would buy Greenland, and keep the Mexicans out of the borders. We would have built a wall on the borders of Greenland and Mexico. The Mexicans would be so happy that we're providing them shade. They'd even pay for our beautiful wall. Better than the great wall of ChGina!"

I feel like my only two mistakes in this impersonation are:

  1. It's too coherent.

  2. It stayed on topic.

Ideally he would never fully finish a sentence, yet still somehow come off as racist. All the while drifting from topic to topic, while also saying nothing at all.

[–] macrocephalic@lemmy.world 17 points 4 months ago (1 children)

We spent all our public health goodwill on COVID. A sizable portion of the population will never accept any further restrictions for public health reasons. A smaller but still concerningly large portion will not get any new vaccines because of this.

[–] cmbabul@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

We went into debt with public health goodwill about 3 months into COVID

[–] Mbourgon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

“I don’t think I’m going to do it”. Don Trump on wearing a mask. April 3, 2020. https://www.nytimes.com/video/us/politics/100000007070943/trump-mask-coronavirus.html