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And here I thought it was apparent that I was talking about the national government when discussing the fucking USA. And that's not a fucking autocoup in any case, which is what I said.
Uh huh. Sure. Making equivalences of the first attempted autocoup with prior Republican policy doesn't sound like Trump apologia at all.
Do you really not see the parallels of a white supremacist coup? Even if it is state, and not federal?
So ... you do think January 6th is worse than all that? You just want to ignore history? Why? Republicans have been bad? Can you please explain why you want to deny that Republicans have always had awful, anti-democratic strategies that rely on disenfranchisement? Trump is part of a larger pattern, there is a reason he was able to rise to power. It's not like Hitler was the first person to think up anti-semetism.
And if you tried to play apologist for Hitler by trying to make an equivalence between him and all prior antisemites, it would sound about the same as this does.
Have you never heard of antisemitic pogroms?Hitler had technological advances for his genocide, but he was far from the first.
You really just flit from idea to idea, don't you?
I am responding to your exact message. You said
And I said:
If you think that's a non-sequitor, that explains a lot of your attempts at discussion.
Tell me more about how previous antisemitic pogroms and the Holocaust were equivalent.
They just didn't have the technology to enact something on the scale of the Holocaust, but the genocidal intent was the same. Not to mention the hundreds of years of legal subjugation and regular scapegoating. I don't see why you think it's useful for you to pretend that Republican extremeism is new, if anything this is the latest iteration of an ongoing plan. One could definitely argue that it's urgent to outvote Trump, and acknowledge his place in the context of history. What you are doing is intellectually dishonest.
Yep, definitely, it's just the scale of the Holocaust that's exceptional. /s
I think we're finished here.
Did you really not understand what I was saying? Do you think anti-semetism was not broadly acceptable before the Holocaust? Hitler got his ideas from somewhere. The violence during the Holocaust was tolerated for a reason. Anti-semetic officials in the United States government enabled the Holocaust to continue for longer than it could have, had action been taken.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_and_the_Holocaust
I don't see how it benefits you to deny history. We exist in the context, etc etc