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Hah, the article was removed https://nypost.com/2024/07/14/us-news/forbes-removes-column-that-asks-if-trump-surviving-shooting-will-appeal-to-black-voters/
Seems like it was supposed to be sorta the opposite of what it ended up being.
Oh, so it's a classic case of 'any question asked in a headline can just be answered with no'?
Betteridge's law of headlines
Well I wouldn't put it past him. He wasn't shot by the police though.
Link to something less awful than the Post talking about it- https://www.mediaite.com/trump/forbes-deletes-article-asking-whether-trump-surviving-assassination-attempt-will-be-his-next-appeal-to-black-voters/
It was the first result, I'm not otherwise familiar with the site
It's a right-wing Rupert Murdoch tabloid.
I don't think it really matters when the point is just the article deletion, at least as long as what they write about is true
It matters for those of us who don't want to generate revenue for the Murdochs.
Could just not click the link
Sure, but someone might want more information and not want to give revenue to the Murdochs. Why do you care if I provided people an alternate way to get that information?
Well you sorta wrote it like a demand to me
I don't care if you provide another link, as long as you don't expect me to know the ins and outs of American news sites and to provide you links to sites that are more to your liking.
It wasn't a demand at all. It wasn't even in reference to you. I was presenting a link... and I think you probably know that since you left out the hyphen, which indicates what I meant.
I'm not sure if it is that you are not a native speaker or that neither of us are but "do this" is how you write commands and demands. If it wasn't meant in that way and not meant to me, even though it was written directly in reply to me, then it was a bit poorly thought out since it obviously seems like a demand. But it's all good as far as I'm concerned
Genuinely not sure how you figured the hyphen would change it but here's the full reply. I don't get it but maybe it changes the meaning to someone
https://www.merriam-webster.com/grammar/em-dash-en-dash-how-to-use
Although I admit I used a dash instead of an em dash because I didn't want to look up the special character. I think most people probably understood what I was saying.
I really don't know how you thought that changes it to something else. It adds to it, giving the actual link, but doesn't change the actual tone. Or what did you intend it to say?
I don't think it's a case of people not understanding, that I agree on.
And now you're making the ludicrous implication that you know what I meant better than I do when I literally told you that I wasn't commanding you to do anything or was even talking about you. 🙄
I think we're done here. You can have the last word to pretend you know me so well again.
I would be really intetested to hear how you imagined the em dash would change the meaning and what the intended meaning was.
If you reply to people and seemingly talk directly to them then most would assume you are talking to them. I don't think any amount of em dashes clarifies that it's meant in some vague fashion.
Muchos gracias.
I also understood it as:
Here's a link to ...
No I assumed the link part was that, here's a better link, but what did you make out of the "link to something less awful" part if not telling that I should link to something less awful in the future? I'm not sure how else to read it
If the intention was to just provide the link as they said the first part seems totally unnecessary, especially so since it can easily make the whole comment seem unnecessarily abrasive imo.
Idk, i always assume someone is commenting/responding to the thread, instead of directly to the author of the comment they are responding to.
I've read a fair share of the Squid's posts and comments and feel like they would rather write it like "Please link to something" or "Can you link to something" if they would address you personally.
On the Internet, i've learned to not take anything personal from the get go. For my own sanity.
Edit: but i can see where you're coming from. In a normal conversation - one on one, i would understand it differently.
I didn't do it here, because i picture lemmy like a big room, with people sitting in groups around a topic and discussing. So i assume people are addressing the group, if not addressing someone specific in their comment.
Sorry for the amount of edits, this was the last one
It's an interesting assumption, considering that we are talking to each other right now. At least I assume so. Usually in my experience people note that they're not directly replying to someone because otherwise it does get very confusing.
Not that it matters, really. I'm more interesting about the em dash thing, that supposedly changed the meaning. I just don't see how.
E: I just realized that them not directly addressing me, who posted the link to New York Post but everyone in the thread posting New York Post links doesn't change the meaning, just the target. lol
The dash thingy is also new to me.