20
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[-] sexywheat@hexbear.net 4 points 3 months ago

anti-nuclear

brow being anti-nuclear in France of all places seems to be something of an enigma, no? Do you know what his reasoning is?

I presume you mean nuclear energy not weapons?

[-] Veganhydride@hexbear.net 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Yeah I do mean energy. Indeed, nuclear energy is big in France and popular among the overall population.

Their stated goal is to eventually go full renewables (0% nuclear in 15-20 years). They want to stop building new plants and eventually close existing ones. Some of the stated reasons are waste, water, an inability to solve climate change, unreliability (such as in 2022 with heat and the war in Ukraine, adding that climate change compounds the heat issue), dangerous accidents, import issues (no uranium in France, therefore does not allow for energy independence), and cost. He's not bad on climate change generally though.

Those were the official reasons I was able to find, I couldn't tell you if there was some kind of ideological stance behind all of it or some kind of sociological explanation that explains their opinions.

He's not the only one, the green party is also against it (0% nuclear in 25 years). The communist party (not communist) likes nuclear energy, the socialist party (not socialist) is kind of split/unclear. The right-wing parties all like nuclear energy. One of the trotskyist parties, the NPA is also anti-nuclear (0% in 10 years), citing Fukushima, Chernobyl, military interventionism in Africa and Asia for uranium, waste, and also call it anti-democratic.

[-] sexywheat@hexbear.net 6 points 3 months ago

Hmm, personally I'm a big supporter of nuclear energy, but I can see the whole "not having any domestic uranium and needing to terrorize Africa to obtain it" as being a legitimate reason to be against it, in France anyway.

The droughts fucking up the cooling ability of reactors was also kinda scary so fair enough.

[-] Veganhydride@hexbear.net 5 points 3 months ago

Yeah. No idea how well that argument holds up. It's an issue that affects all resources. You need lithium and various metals for renewables, and they need to be periodically replaced.

It's worth saying that there are in fact uranium deposits in France. 76,000 tons have been extracted from 1945 to 2001. Some resources we only pillage the third world for because you don't shit where you eat, but we could actually responsibly do at home (to an extent) if safety, compensation, and environmental clean-ups were guaranteed. Other resources are actually absent in certain countries, which does raise a significant problem to any country that wants to have a communist revolution, decolonize and leave the globalized world economy while preserving modern life standards in important sectors (medicine, energy).

this post was submitted on 17 Jul 2024
20 points (100.0% liked)

askchapo

22748 readers
386 users here now

Ask Hexbear is the place to ask and answer ~~thought-provoking~~ questions.

Rules:

  1. Posts must ask a question.

  2. If the question asked is serious, answer seriously.

  3. Questions where you want to learn more about socialism are allowed, but questions in bad faith are not.

  4. Try !feedback@hexbear.net if you're having questions about regarding moderation, site policy, the site itself, development, volunteering or the mod team.

founded 4 years ago
MODERATORS