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Joe Biden has reportedly become more open in recent days to hearing arguments that he should step aside as the Democratic presidential candidate after the party’s two main congressional leaders told him they doubted his ability to beat Donald Trump.

While continuing to insist he will be the party’s nominee in November, the president has reportedly started asking questions about negative polling data and whether Vice-President Kamala Harris, considered the favourite to replace him if were to withdraw, fares better.

The indications of a possible rethink come after Biden tested positive on Wednesday for Covid-19, forcing him to isolate for several days while curtailing a campaigning visit to Nevada that had been part of a drive to show his candidacy was very much alive.

It also coincides with fresh polling data showing that he now trails Trump by two points in Virginia, a state he won by 10 points in 2020.

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[–] andyburke@fedia.io 161 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Open the convention.

All the news coverage about who the democratic nominee will be has been and will sap the life blood of Trump's campaign: coverage.

When they aren't paying attention to him, he becomes ever more unhinged and his mask slips even more.

Chaos in the democratic party can work for us for once.

[–] Tom_Hanx_Hail_Satan@lemmy.ca 30 points 3 months ago (1 children)

100% agree with this sentiment. 1 day debate, 2nd or third day, delegate vote. Imagine a national conversation where the cornerstone is about the policies of the democratic platform. Compare them to the policies of the GOP. That will be a huge W for the party, especially down ticket.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Imagine a national conversation where the cornerstone is about the policies of the democratic platform.

They are decided by major donors and superPACs, not conventioneers.

[–] BallsandBayonets@lemmings.world 10 points 3 months ago

Yeah but they could pretend for a bit, just for the cameras.

[–] JimmyBigSausage@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 13 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Harris will absolutely lose this election worse than Biden.

Let's see Whitehouse or Warren or someone else that is focused on issues young Americans really care about. Our platform should be consumer protection, workers' rights, or climate change.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 24 points 3 months ago

Absolutely not. Elizabeth Warren would violate the one rule about replacing Biden, no more old people! She's great, but she's 75.

Also Harris actually polls well. Her, Whitmer, and Newsom are the big names and they're all in their 50's.

[–] Burstar@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You're overlooking reproductive rights which should be a huge deal this election and imo gives Harris a bump ya'll aren't considering.

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I've seen Warren go on the fucking war path about Roe - I have not seen the same by Harris.

[–] Burstar@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] CleoTheWizard@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

Not to mention her platform is going to be very similar to Bidens current platform but with some improvements as you pointed out. Which means she will likely retain all of the current voting platform and then gain the people who like the platform but are voting based on age related stuff.

You can put literally anyone up there that is below the age of 65 and they should have no issue convincing moderates that their 80 year old Republican candidate has soup for brains.

[–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

See this is an issue because it's going to end up being harris and people won't be happy hopefully they still support whoever though. I think most people are on the same page though

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 22 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I'm laughing at all the people who would vote for Biden's dead body but suddenly have an issue with Harris.

Because we're sooo fucked.

[–] CleoTheWizard@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I feel like any liberal voter with even mush between their ears should realize that Biden completing a full term is not overwhelmingly likely and we’d get Harris anyways.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

You would think.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz -2 points 3 months ago

I'm sure they were making VBNMW statements a month ago and decrying infighting since the debate. VBNMW, Trust Black Women, party unity, etc. are all just tools to defend the establishment leader, not actual statements of policies.