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[-] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net -2 points 2 months ago

No, we have these rights because people exercised collective power in an organized and strategic manner. Including, yes, disruptive acts of protest which if you had asked instead of trying to shift the goal posts to, you would find that I support.

The isolated cases of lone wolf killings were not frequent enough to have any real effect but what effect it did have was to cause fear and division among the people we need to organize, and to give rhetorical weapons to the powers that be.

[-] Cypher@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

You are completely ignorant of the history of unions if you think lone wolf killings were the only use of violence in the struggle for workers rights.

[-] oo1@lemmings.world 4 points 2 months ago

Yeah wasn't there an "isolated incident" in "the whole of France"? No real effect there. /s

[-] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net -2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

And it became a socialist utopia forever and nothing bad happened after that period at all!

I was talking specifically in the labor rights era. Obviously mass killings have happened in history, but again, they didn’t lead to a better society.