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Привет! I'm currently learning Russian as a native English speaker. I've only been at it for a few weeks but I feel like I've gotten some of the basics down.

Anyone who is more knowledgeable than me, how do I reliably learn which to use from ц, ч, с, щ, or ш?

Also when speaking long words 10+ characters or 4+ syllables long I feel myself triping over my tongue. Moreso than my previous experience with learning German but it has been over a decade since then.

Additionally, anyone else learning a second or third language and hows it going for you?

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[–] pnwml@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

That makes sense. I've been meaning to add phonetics to my flash cards to assist with longer words, здравствуйте has been the hardest to pronounce so far but защищающаяся seems alot worse. I'll definitely start trying to pronounce it today though.

And being able to get at least an idea of what people are discussing online is really fun. On YouTube I'll sometimes use random Russian comments as flash cards if they're short enough.

Thank you!

[–] DeHuq2@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Защищающаяся is kinda a meme word so don't be intimidated from learning russian, there aren't a lot of words like that. You can also leave the first 'v' in здравствуйте silent.

[–] pnwml@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Dropping the first в helps alot. Because trying to 'v' right before going into a 'st' was tongue tieing me really bad

[–] KlargDeThaym@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 3 months ago

To be honest, we Russian native speakers drop "v" there pretty often too.

[–] rostselmasch@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 3 months ago

защищающаяся

Try first to learn the pronunciation of защищать before you move to partizip stuff. Normal verbs and nouns have enough combinations of consonants and vocals. As soon as you know it good enough and also the suffix for all those male and female causes, защищающаяся should be more easy to pronounce.

I think it is worth learning it. If you are familiar in the pronunciation of Ж,Щ,Ш, words in other languages will became more easier to pronounce too. If I don't know how to read a Chinese City, name, river etc. I look how it is written in Cyrillic.