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At best these tankies are accelerationaists, at worst they are brats who HAVE to get exactly their way or they're not playing.
I think it's even worse than that, I think there are paid campaigns by foreign dictatorships who want the western world to off themselves and each other.
Not to say every one of them is a paid troll or actor, far from it, the rest of them are just lambs to slaughter.
Or maybe the leftists are disenfranchised by a first past the post system that doesn't represent them, does not care to compromise to get their support, nor will adopt any part of their platform and instead continues moving the the right becoming the "law and order" party until the only perceived choice left is to withhold electoral support until policy demands are met?
Nah they're just brats and demand representation instead of shutting up and giving total devotion to whoever the DNC chooses for them like the rest of the saviors of democracy who vote blue no matter who.
Sincerely, still undecided
Sure, fine.
Let's do it in a year that fascism isn't legit in play, ok?
No?
Fine, blocked.
Fascism is in play every year. This is the same tired lib excuse to avoid the issue entirely. Its always going to be taboo to talk about it during the only time libs pay attention.
"Out trump and move them left later"
Cool so we can overhaul the election system so the two parties can't move the goalposts every time someone gets close, and overhaul the DNC into an organization beholden to its voters so every road to doing that ISN'T blocked off?
crickets ".......TANKIE!"
I seem to remember that first part happening in 2020, but instead of moving left now they're crossing their fingers that top cop prosecutor mommy picks conservative astronaut daddy to lock up fascism once and for all
This is me but am not raging dick of a leftists. Why come?
Dont know you well enough to speculate im afraid. Challenging indoctrinated belief systems and asking the status quo to justify itself is what did it for me.
I can tell you but you don't want to hear it.
The path foward is never clear. Incremental change is the only thing that will get us where we want to be with out losing anything on the way. Set backs are to be expected. We are fighting for the next generation and the generation after that. Status quo is probably the best you'll ever get. Well, while you're healthy enough to enjoy it.
Im afraid we have lost quite a bit already by following the status quo. Reproductive rights was a big recent loss you may have heard of.
Alternatively no meaningful change has started at the ballot box, its been direct action and civil disobedience. The system seems to have a slow methodical approach to considering new rights, and removes them on a whim.
Either way what I am saying is, I am not mindlessly supporting the status quo unless the move toward me. They've been moving away in a steady March for decades. I lost faith that change would come about through the electoral process during Obamas term and again during the 2016 primary.
If you want to prop up the DNC thats your right, but im not going to do it simply because they arent trump. I can vote PSL again without guilt because I have no real power or choice in the electoral system and thats not my fault.
You're not listening. You have no vision. For 50 years the GOP fought for the supreme court and they got it. That is not the lefts fault. They used every tool, all the way from building a media empire to solidify their win.
We could fight for something too.
I dont think you're saying anything at all honestly. Ive been fighting the right and the slightly less right for decades. From occupy to agorism, protests, illegal community support, tenant associations, volunteer work, food banks, so its pretty hasty for you to claim I have no vision while you speak on Jack shit but milquetoast half assed DNC apologism about how the openly fascist are 50 years ahead and you dont even know what to fight for but you're convinced incremental change is the way.
Well, there it is. The reason nothing has gotten done is because you're the one "fighting the right." After 20 years ready to throw in the towel because you can't bear to check a box ever again.
Lol I dont think you understand a damn thing Ive said but thanks for whining at me, I guess.
You checked out after my first response. Go ahead read it again.
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Because all or nothing is really doing it for you. I mean... it is doing nothing so I guess you got that part down pat.
Maybe its just more impressive from your perspective, where everything would eventually be perfect if people just checked the same box you do.
It's not about what box I check. It's about the box which actually contributes to change.
Thats why im probably going to check the Claudia De LA Cruz box but im still not sure tbh. Maybe if more people vote their conscience the DNC will try and earn my vote or run a candidate I believe in and have a fair chance to select, but so far I dont think these boxes change a damn thing.
The guy in office even told me nothing will fundamentally change when he took over from trump and he was right, so im not going to place too much importance on the boxes and start focusing on things I believe in. Like food not bombs, peoples city council, and my local tenant Union.
Oblivious. The stakes this election are beyond. You have a supreme court that is funneling power to the executive and the GOP is openly advertising their plan for christo-fascism. Why I even bother, if it hasn't gotten through to you by now you'll remain oblivious.
Pure cope
"Screw you guys, I'm voting for fascism"