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Image is of a colectivo: an armed group, usually operating in impoverished areas, which act to support and defend the socialist government of Venezuela. They are often derided as vigilante terrorist groups which prop up the government, because cops are only bad when they are socialist and not murdering minorities, I suppose.


Maduro's party, the PSUV, has won the election after a staggering amount of propaganda by the opposition, who said their polls suggested they were going to win and that Maduro's loss was inevitable. The reaction across Latin America is what one would expect. Left-leaning leaders are generally respecting the results and congratulating Maduro, while those on the right and/or are US puppets (such as in semirecently-couped Peru) are calling for recounts, or even that the election was illegitimate. The US itself is also unhappy about the results. We shall soon see if their unhappiness boils over into yet another coup attempt.

Personally, I think they should have ran Guaido again.

guaido-despair guaido

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English-language Palestinian Marxist-Leninist twitter account. Alt here.
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English-language (with some Arab retweets) Twitter account based in Lebanon. - Telegram is @IbnRiad.
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Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists
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Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful. Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.
Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.
Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.
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Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.

Pro-Russian Telegram Channels:

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.
https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.
https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.
https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.
https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.
https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.
https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.
https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.
https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.
https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine Telegram Channels:

Almost every Western media outlet.
https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.
https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


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[-] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 111 points 3 months ago

"Different parts of the IDF are fighting each other, IDF can't coordinate w/ the police, lawmakers are fighting the army & each other, there is attempted violent takeover of military property underway & big (select) groups of citizens are armed.

Closest i've ever experienced to state breakdown. It has all the ingredients for the gov't to try & justify imposing martial law on citizens - unprecedented

Hamas, Hezbollah could never have imagined how much they would succeed. This is better than they even dreamed."

[-] very_poggers_gay@hexbear.net 71 points 3 months ago

[W]e must resign ourselves to the inevitable… that the bourgeoisie is condemned to become every day more snarling, more openly ferocious, more shameless, more summarily barbarous; that it is an implacable law that every decadent class finds itself turned into a receptacle into which flow all the dirty waters of history; that it is a universal law that before it disappears, every class must first disgrace itself completely, on all fronts, and that it is with their heads buried in the dunghill that dying societies utter their swan songs.

— Aimé Césaire sicko-charging

[-] miz@hexbear.net 22 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

great comment. you inspired me to read more from Discourse on Colonialism and I already found this banger in the leadup to the above quote:

"It is not by losing itself in the human universe, with its blood and its spirit, that France will be universal, it is by remaining itself." That is what the French bourgeoisie has come to, five years after the defeat of Hitler! And it is precisely in that that its historic punishment lies: to be condemned, returning to it as though driven by a vice, to chew over Hitler's vomit.

[-] very_poggers_gay@hexbear.net 4 points 3 months ago

Discourse on Colonialism is like infinitely quotable. I've read and reread it many times in the last year, and I always find something new each time

[-] miz@hexbear.net 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I know that some of you, disgusted with Europe, with all that hideous mess which you did not witness by choice, are turning— oh! in no great numbers— toward America and getting used to looking upon that country as a possible liberator.
"What a godsend!" you think.
"The bulldozers! The massive investments of capital! The roads! The ports!"
"But American racism!"
"So what? European racism in the colonies has inured us to it!"
And there we are, ready to run the great Yankee risk.
So, once again, be careful!
American domination— the only domination from which one never recovers. I mean from which one never recovers unscarred.
And since you are talking about factories and industries, do you not see the tremendous factory hysterically spitting out its cinders in the heart of our forests or deep in the bush, the factory for the production of lackeys; do you not see the prodigious mechanization, the mechanization of man; the gigantic rape of everything intimate, undamaged, undefiled that, despoiled as we are, our human spirit has still managed to preserve; the machine, yes, have you never seen it, the machine for crushing, for grinding, for degrading peoples?
So that the danger is immense.

damn that goes hard

[-] SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net 68 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

anybody know of any historical precedents to this sort of thing? as in, settlers go "no! you're not doing fascism hard enough! we must take over the bases and force them to do genocide EVEN HARDER!"

the closest thing I can think of is American settlers marching into Native American territory and settling there under the belief that the American government would protect them, which would sometimes happen and sometimes not, but that's not so much infighting as what's increasingly going on in Israel.

I'm curious to see if this sort of infighting could plausibly go somewhere or if every Zionist will circle the wagons once the war with Hezbollah begins

[-] Aru@lemmygrad.ml 52 points 3 months ago

Algeria, the coup attempt on de Gaulle and the O.S terrorist group

[-] SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net 35 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

fuck, right, yeah. I think that's the closest analogy to what's going on now.

I'm always apprehensive to say "NOW is when the Cool Zone begins!" because the Cool Zone always tends to only briefly exist before dying down again for a while, but this, plus the Haredi tensions, plus the losses in Gaza, plus the impending war with Hezbollah, plus increasing economic/political isolation are a dire combination of factors that will lead further and further down the road of state dissolution. it won't be now, but this is a meaningful stepping stone.

[-] Greenleaf@hexbear.net 40 points 3 months ago

I have read accounts of white settlers in North America in the 19th century. They were every bit as deranged as Israeli settlers. There was frequent conflict with the US Army but that was only because settlers always have a reach that exceeds the grasp of what the military can support. But I suspect white settlers in North America were far more reliant on support from the military than Israeli settlers are with the IOF due to the distances involved, so perhaps that allows Israeli settlers to be even more hostile to the military. Also, Palestinians are forcibly kept more defenseless than Native Americans were, at least so it seems to me.

[-] mkultrawide@hexbear.net 40 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Bacon's Rebellion, which, yes, is more-or-less your second paragraph.

[-] Dolores@hexbear.net 39 points 3 months ago

it's kind of unimaginable at this scale, but settlers given the slimmest autonomy & obligations to a distant government pretty much always have an impulse to take affairs into their own hands. Mormons, Martin Cortez & the encomienderos, Revolt of San Tito on Krete---but these motherfuckers are like, right next to the 'proper' state and have everything provided to them by that state. they aren't responsible for getting the grain for the metropole or getting unfavorably taxed to my knowledge.

this could really be a new leaf in settler derangement and entitlement tbh

[-] ziggurter@hexbear.net 34 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

anybody know of any historical precedents to this sort of thing? as in, settlers go "no! you're not doing fascism hard enough! we must take over the bases and force them to do genocide EVEN HARDER!"

the closest thing I can think of is American settlers marching into Native American territory and settling there under the belief that the American government would protect them....

I mean, you could also say it's essentially one of the major reasons for the U.S. War of Independence (that and preserving slavery; also somewhat related).

[-] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 31 points 3 months ago

Maybe a good example could be the US independence, one big turning point was Britain banned the settler from expanding into native territories that were allied to london, which made the US landlord class angry with the crown

[-] Outdoor_Catgirl@hexbear.net 30 points 3 months ago

I mean, trying to coup the government because they aren't doing war hard enough is what the whole Wagner thing was. Obviously different wars there, no moral equivalency, but you get the idea.

[-] mkultrawide@hexbear.net 65 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Man, 10 months ago, I thought Israel was going to head towards a civil war, but it would have to do with a mix of failure and tensions over Haredi being forced to serve in the military, not doing Jan 6th for actual rapists.

[-] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 52 points 3 months ago

The radical evil of fascism has always been underestimated because normal decent people simply don't think the thoughts fascists tend to think

[-] jack@hexbear.net 12 points 3 months ago

The military failure set the stage for this

[-] VILenin@hexbear.net 57 points 3 months ago

What do you call a thousand Zionists killing each other?

spoilerA good thing.

[-] miz@hexbear.net 44 points 3 months ago

spoilerA good start*

[-] Commiejones@hexbear.net 39 points 3 months ago
[-] riseuppikmin@hexbear.net 39 points 3 months ago

Is there anywhere/anyone providing decent coverage of this?

[-] Wertheimer@hexbear.net 35 points 3 months ago
[-] Boredom@hexbear.net 34 points 3 months ago

I'll believe it when DW starts to panic.

[-] Dessa@hexbear.net 10 points 3 months ago

A new front! Wgat are we at, 8 now?

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