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I recently made a post about Shinigami Eyes and BlockParty and started thinking about activist tools.

The ones mentioned are of course merely mitigation tools, but speaking of activist tools more broadly, like some people suggest Signal and Tor Browser for activists, as a fine balance between security and a low technical bar for entrance.

I am not really sure that any of these differ substantially from Matrix and Firefox and why they are so special.

The ActivityPub protocol. the one Lemmy uses, is a mature protocol and people have put thought in various aspects of it.

Apart from Lemmy, there are ActivityPub applications that foster activist and IRL communication, like Framasoft's Mobilizon.

The main issue I would think of about ActivityPub instances for community organizing is the lack of specialized features for this type of work, like polling.

And the major issue of course is the pseudonymity/anonymity and completely open signups renders existing apps like Lemmy untenable for community activism organizing.

In your opinion, what would it take for an Activity Pub application to be a secure, efficient tool for community activism?

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[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online 19 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Wut? Social media is for public messages. If you want something to be private, don't use Activity Pub

But its a useful tool for blasting public info for organizers, sure

[–] jlow@beehaw.org 7 points 3 months ago

Exactly, never use social media (Acticity Pup, Insta, Tiktok etc) to organise activism, use it to comminicate with the pubkic, that's what it's made for.

[–] whydudothatdrcrane@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Um, does community organizing have to be secret to be immune to trolls and bad actors?

[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online 9 points 3 months ago

It depends what you're organizing

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Well, if you want publicly available discussions, I think a lemmy community would be well suited, since you can block people from posting or commenting stuff there, but block reading does not work. If you want that it is not public, I would say one of the most convenient and save places would be a matrix space. It is like discord just not a service, but a protocol (well matrix organisation does host an own instance) that allows having private e2e encrypted chat rooms and even video call using jitsi. I just fear, that getting people into the space is a bit more difficult compared to the invitation systems of discord using bots.

[–] whydudothatdrcrane@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Sure, I understand Matrix fine. On the contrary, I don't get why people find it harder to switch to than Discord?

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago

Well I have never created a space, it just now came to my mind that you could have the same setup as discord with public and private chats where new blood can write and get approved to join the private stuff 🤔 and thus I agree. It most likely just because many have a discord account and only few a account on a matrix instance