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Star Wars Memes

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Hello there. Somehow, Star Wars memes have returned. It's not a trap, this is where the fun begins.

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Other universes to visit:

!lotrmemes@midwest.social

!tenforward@lemmy.world

Separatist systems:

!prequelmemes@lemmy.world

Oh hey some real SW content for a change (perhaps):

!star_wars@lemmy.world

!starwars@lemmy.ml

!starwarstelevision@lemmy.world

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Please do not post the "good friend" or similar copypasta

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Our galactic citizens have requested more specific rules, so here are a few.

The general idea is, if you're looking here for rules, you're probably someone who doesn't need to have them spelled out. You're fine. But anyway:

  1. This is a community for Star Wars memes. This means typically screenshots of Star Wars media with some text or context that's meant to be funny and/or thoughtful. All SW media is welcome: movies, games, comic books, fanart... Other kinds of content, like video links or meta memes (about this community, or Lemmy), are fine as well, just keep it on topic.

  2. We are all friends here, and love (sometimes love to hate) Star Wars. Be nice to each other.

  3. As fans of fictional media, we can be passionate. If you very strongly disagree with something or someone, take a deep breath before reacting. Anger leads to the dark side!

  4. Everything in Star Wars has happened a long time ago, in a galaxy far away, and it's a rich universe of millions of words and millions of years of history. So current Earthly matters really shouldn't concern us here. In other words, leave politics, philosophies and convictions behind the door. This applies even if it's about something related to Star Wars.

  5. Original content is preferred. Reposts are fine, just please limit to a maximum of 3 per day, per citizen. It is recommended, but not required, to mark original memes as (OC) and reposts as (repost).

  6. Local mods are the Jedi council. They may take actions that are necessary to maintain peace and stability of the Republic, even beyond the rules outlined here. Follow their guidance.

  7. Regular rules of the Lemmy.world instance apply.

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[–] Sordid@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

It's almost as if Luke's unwillingness to make necessary sacrifices and his half-hearted actions bringing about the exact outcome he was hoping to prevent were a deliberate commentary on real life and on the situations we find ourselves in both as individuals and as a civilization or something. But that can't be true, because the sequels are shit in every way with no redeeming features whatsoever, and Rian Johnson is a complete idiot who doesn't know what he's doing.

[–] WldFyre@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

make necessary sacrifices and his half-hearted actions bringing about the exact outcome he was hoping to prevent were a deliberate commentary on real life

You're right, we should be executing children who statistically will grow up to be criminals/murderers. I guess I just got confused about who the bad guys were in Minority Report as well. What a great commentary on real life lol

[–] Sordid@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I don't think Luke used statistics to determine what Ben would do in the future.

As for Minority Report, it's unfortunately one of those movies where the filmmakers try to clobber the audience over the head with a moral that the story doesn't actually support. Jurassic Park is another such movie. It's all about "man shouldn't play god" and "life will find a way", right? Wrong! The dinosaurs only escaped their enclosures because Nedry sabotaged the system and turned the electric fences off. The park would've been fine if he hadn't done that. The real moral of that story is that humans can triumph even over mother nature as long as we don't stab each other in the back.

Minority Report is a very similar case. The precrime program was a roaring success, eliminating nearly all premeditated murders. Yeah, sure, one guy managed to figure out a way to fool the system, but luckily he got caught regardless. That's a reason to implement safeguards and improve the system, not to shut the entire program down. No system is perfect. Sure, precrime would probably produce a few wrongful convictions and fail to catch a few criminals, but guess what, those issues were far worse under the old system. Going back to a crappy old system because the new and improved system is not absolutely flawless is just stupid. Even in its prototype stage, precrime had far fewer issues than conventional law enforcement, and those issues would've been reduced even more with further development and refinement of the system. Shutting the entire thing down the moment a single teething issue cropped up was one of the most egregious cases of throwing the baby out with the bathwater ever put on screen. So yes, you unironically did get confused about who the bad guys were in Minority Report, but it's not your fault, because the filmmakers were confused about it too.

[–] WldFyre@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

So you think Luke should have killed his innocent nephew who had been groomed and abused since childhood before he did anything bad at all lol

Literal psychopath position to justify TLJ's crappy writing smh

[–] Sordid@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Yes, I thought that was obvious from the start. What part of "Luke shouldn't have hesitated" did you find unclear?

Let me give you an analogy. You see a huge guy, beside himself with rage, winding up to chop a baby using a machete. Do you think it's psychopathic to shoot him in the face to save the baby? That's the position Luke was in. He could see what Ben was going to do in the future just as clearly as you can see what the big angry guy is about to do. And if you hesitated and the baby ended up chopped in half, you'd probably feel a lot of regret and guilt, just like Luke.

The Jedi exist in a universe where the deity they worship is actually real and provides them with both a way of seeing far into the future as well as an objectively correct moral compass. This means the Jedi are ethically obligated to act in ways that might seems psychopathic to people who do not posses such clairvoyance. This is precisely why they're supposed to avoid emotional attachments, because those might compel them to act in ways that feel better in the moment but end up doing far more harm. The older I get, the more convinced I become that basically all of humanity's problems boil down to people doing what they feel like instead of what they know they should.

[–] WldFyre@lemm.ee 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That’s the position Luke was in.

No, it isn't.

The Jedi exist in a universe where...

Literally all of this is wrong, it doesn't fit with either pre-Disney canon or current Disney canon. I have no idea how you took any of this away from any of the movies, but your lack of media literacy and borderline sociopathic views explain why you like TLJ so much. I wonder if everyone downvoting me and upvoting you early will come back and see the messed up stuff you're advocating for smh

[–] Sordid@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

No, it isn’t.

Yes, it is. If you're not going to put any effort into actually arguing your position, then neither am I. The ball is in your court.

Literally all of this is wrong, it doesn’t fit with either pre-Disney canon or current Disney canon.

No, it isn't, and yes, it does. See above.

I wonder if everyone downvoting me and upvoting you early will come back and see the messed up stuff you’re advocating for smh

My first comment is 13 up and 9 down right now, yours is 10 up and 0 down. I don't think you have anything to complain about, so don't play victim.