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[–] Ragdoll_X@lemmy.world 138 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

This guy also has a whole post on Substack complaining that the left is too wary of age gaps in relationships and that this is an "attack on heterosexuality" or whatever. It's kind of funny how these "anti woke" types will decry that queer people are all groomers and yet proclaim that age gaps and adults dating teenagers is part of heterosexual culture under the same breath.

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 64 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Because the only thing that's keeping them from the most depraved things humans can do is the laws. They grew up wrong. The rest of us are asking to live our authentic lives and they can't think of anything that would stop us, upon living our authentic lives, from committing depraved acts because that's what they would do if the laws allowed it. We ask to be allowed to have healthy relationships between consenting adults and they see a dangerous precedent that once we're allowed to do that, then what else are we allowed to do. Its from a basic difference in where they think ethics and morality come from. I think ethics and morality come from within ourselves and that laws should be written to establish communal protections that allow people to achieve true freedom from oppression. They believe ethics and morality exist separate from humanity and laws exist to ensure intrinsically bad people (everyone) remains moral. Within that group, the repressives we're talking about in this post are truly the most dangerous.

Look. All this is super complicated and I'm realizing I'm over simplifying entire systems of ethics it took me 35 pages single spaced to describe in college. Its valuable to have discussions about where ethics come from when discussing politics because ultimately that's what you actually vote on and about

[–] aodhsishaj@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Edit: replied to the wrong comment. I absolutely agree with you

[–] Kampfkrapfen_Backup@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

Very well put, thank you

[–] aodhsishaj@lemmy.world 18 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

There is a loooooooooooooong fucked up history of this being sanctioned by organized religions of all types. It stems from the patriarchal ideal woman being a baby factory and is absolutely a barbaric practice. The men in these religions are conditioned to be interested in young virginal girls that they call women but treat like property.

https://phys.org/news/2020-08-reveal-patterns-sexual-abuse-religious.html

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2352250X20301421

https://www.gotquestions.org/child-marriage.html

https://www.salon.com/2018/03/11/banning-child-marriage-in-america-an-uphill-fight-against-evangelical-pressure/

https://www.teenvogue.com/story/child-marriage-and-religion-in-the-united-states

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 7 points 3 months ago

That was some wild and deranged shit holy fuck. And the comments too.