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Uyghur "Genocide" is so hardwired to people's brains, how do any of y'all try convince others that they're believing propaganda? (hexbear.net)
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It's really frustrating, I was talking to someone about how successful China has been in de-radicalization of reactionaries. But they responded to this by saying they're only successful because, and I quote "put them all in concentration camps and killed them"

Has anyone here been successful in deprogramming people about this topic? If so any good sources I can use to dissuade them? I tried telling them that the UN report, if you read it, just says that there's concerns about abuse by internment offcials, and there's no evidence of genocide. But when I say this they just dismiss it as if the UN is controlled by the PRC. It's like a religion to liberals to believe anything bad about China and can get really frustrating.

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[โ€“] ButtBidet@hexbear.net 72 points 2 months ago (1 children)

My go to dunk is that there's zero Muslim majority nation that has even produced a comment on the Uyghur thing. It's 100% coming from Western nations with recent history of wars in the Middle East and Islamophobia.

[โ€“] cosecantphi@hexbear.net 59 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

And going this route, you find out whether your lib is a well meaning but politically naive potential comrade, or if they're a racist, chauvinistic chud.

On reddit you'll probably mostly get the latter. The chuddier libs love falling over themselves to talk about how literally every single Muslim majority country is governed without the consent of its people by theocratic despots who are fully supported and propped up by Chinese bribes. Just wild conspiracy shit like this rehashing the oldest racist tropes in the book without the slightest hint of self awareness.