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It's really frustrating, I was talking to someone about how successful China has been in de-radicalization of reactionaries. But they responded to this by saying they're only successful because, and I quote "put them all in concentration camps and killed them"

Has anyone here been successful in deprogramming people about this topic? If so any good sources I can use to dissuade them? I tried telling them that the UN report, if you read it, just says that there's concerns about abuse by internment offcials, and there's no evidence of genocide. But when I say this they just dismiss it as if the UN is controlled by the PRC. It's like a religion to liberals to believe anything bad about China and can get really frustrating.

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[–] dkr567@hexbear.net 23 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

I'd just usually say somewhere in the line of "for a genocide, Urumqi or Kashgar sure has a lot of Uyghur language on their street signs/shops and just all around the city and its inhabitants are practicing their faith, culture and customs from all the vlogs I've seen on youtube." I just think that if there was a "genocide", it sure as hell is a terrible attempt if the goal was to eliminate a certain ethnic group so therefore, no genocide.

[–] Black_Mald_Futures@hexbear.net 32 points 2 months ago

Explicitly exempting ethnic minorities from the 1 child policy is something id totally have done if i were trying to do a genocide. That just makes sense

[–] heggs_bayer@hexbear.net 15 points 2 months ago

Watch libs say all the vlogs are potemkin village style tricks to fool the more guillable westerners.