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Uyghur "Genocide" is so hardwired to people's brains, how do any of y'all try convince others that they're believing propaganda? (hexbear.net)
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It's really frustrating, I was talking to someone about how successful China has been in de-radicalization of reactionaries. But they responded to this by saying they're only successful because, and I quote "put them all in concentration camps and killed them"

Has anyone here been successful in deprogramming people about this topic? If so any good sources I can use to dissuade them? I tried telling them that the UN report, if you read it, just says that there's concerns about abuse by internment offcials, and there's no evidence of genocide. But when I say this they just dismiss it as if the UN is controlled by the PRC. It's like a religion to liberals to believe anything bad about China and can get really frustrating.

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[–] VILenin@hexbear.net 11 points 2 months ago

I don't believe I have ever, and I do mean ever, met a person irl who cared enough about the "Uyghur genocide" to mention it if I'm (lightly) glazing China.

There was a post on here a few months ago about a university professor who legitimized the idea in class, even going as far as saying that Uyghurs were not considered a real ethnic group in China (basic, bottom-of-the-barrel lie that even a half-second of research would have contradicted).

so... why and how can China, the "inferior" nation, build high speed rail across their massive country but the mighty US can't? Shouldn't we do it too just to prove we're number one?

The problem with trying this is that the reasoning doesn't go from considering national accomplishments to determining superiority/inferiority, it's actually the other way around. National status is predetermined through a series of racist tropes and everything else is viewed in light of that. China isn't superior because they can build high-speed rail, the HSR network is actually a totalitarian means of 1984 big brother control because China is inferior. The US isn't inferior because they can't build HSR, our inability to do so reflects our spirit of freedom because we are superior.