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Harris, despite being part of the Biden administration, was seen by some as being more sympathetic to the pro-Palestinian cause and made a forceful case for a cease-fire deal after meeting with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netantyahu.

“We all came to a consensus that it’s not going to make a difference, that [Harris] represents this administration,” said Hatem Abudayyeh, chair of the U.S. Palestinian Community Network. “We’re going to stay full steam ahead.”

Harris may also face sporadic protests inside the arena where she will make her televised acceptance speech on Thursday. About 30 delegates who represent the “uncommitted” vote in the primary which activists used as a means of protesting Biden’s policies on Israel will attend.

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[–] Lauchs@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

Do any of these protestors honestly believe Palestineans will fare the same or better with trump in office?

Either they do and are thus too dumb to be worth listening to or they don't care about the people they profess to defend.

Edit: fixed a homonym.

[–] ccunning@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

No. They believe that Harris is more likely to be swayed than Trump is.

[–] radiohead37@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 3 months ago

Exactly. Why don’t they protest at republican rallies? If anything, they are turning Democrats against them.

[–] Antmz22@lemm.ee -1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

No they also know Trump is a lost cause or they would be protesting for Trump to change his stance.

If these protests are so harmful and your recognize genocide is bad and think Kamala agrees, then why isn't she giving in to their demands? She is the one throwing the election away, not people standing up against a genocide.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Why isn't she giving into their Demands you ask, I ask how? She can call for the Senate to vote on different funding/embargo deals. But this is delusional if we are now saying the Vice President can override the President and issue new while breaking old contracts signed by Congress to another country.

[–] APassenger@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Thank you for framing this the way I think it.

It's not pro-Israel or pro-Hamas (to me). It's anti-genocide and anti our weapons being used for it.

That said, if we end up with Trump, then the purity test will have significant backlash.

[–] Lauchs@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

"If you don't do what we say, you're the one throwing away the election!"

It's a pretty childish view.

[–] Antmz22@lemm.ee -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

"stop aiding a genocide or we won't vote for you" is actually a very adult view.

"No I'll keep defending the genocide even if it means losing" is the evil/childish view.

[–] Lauchs@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

"Stop aiding a genocide or we'll allow the party that would speed up said genocide to win" is not an adult view.

Think about it a different way. Many Republicans feel any abortion is murder (so from their perspective, weare killing thousands of babies every month.) If they started protesting trump saying he'd better ban abortion or they'll allow Harris to win (despite the fact that she seems determined to protect the right to abortion) would that be an adult rational decision? Or would it be the same childish petulance?