Justices need to die or retire in order for there to be a vacancy for a President to appoint a new Justice to. There was a vacancy at the start of Trump's term due to a death during Obama's that the Republicans refused to confirm an appointment for, and then there was a retirement (Kennedy) and death (RBG) during his term as well.

[–] patchymoose@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For anyone who isn't familiar, RBG was a liberal Supreme Court justice that was getting very old, and a lot of people thought she should have retired during Obama's term, where she could have been replaced by him. Some accuse her of stubbornness/hubris for not stepping down when it was "safe", and point out that her whole legacy is now being undone.

Others point out that common wisdom at the time was that Hillary was going to he a shoe in as the next president, and nobody expected a Republican to win, including RBG.

Anyway, I'm not taking a stance but just fleshing that out for anyone who is interested in the controversy.

[–] dingus@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Others point out that common wisdom at the time was that Hillary was going to he a shoe in as the next president

Just to also point out. This "common wisdom" is part of why Hillary lost and why a lot of people argued that RBG should have resigned during her term because the next Democratic President wasn't a shoe-in, and people couldn't just rely on that.

People also seem to forget that both a Bush and a Clinton were running in 2016 and in a way, Trump being elected was a initially a rejection of "political dynasties" as Presidencies (which then immediately turned to his followers wanting him as a forever king, but that's a different issue entirely). I had a Bush or a Clinton as President for twenty years of my life (roughly a third of the average lifespan for a US citizen). From my youth until I was no longer considered a youth, well into adulthood. I remember being frustrated at being faced with both a Bush and a Clinton in the primaries. I know lots of other people, on both sides of the aisle, did too. Nobody wanted more of the same (I know Hillary didn't view herself as "more of the same" of her husband, and for good reason, but that wasn't common opinion).

The entire thing about it being "common wisdom" was spoken from a position of privilege by elite Democrats and ignoring that common people weren't every excited about either Bush or Clinton but Clinton got shoehorned in anyway while Bush had his "please clap" moment. It's not a shoe-in if you have to use a shoehorn, mind you.

[–] CeruleanRuin@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago

That says nothing about the existence or lack of a deity, only that if there is one he's a HUGE piece of shit.

[–] TwoGems@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Rabbits

[–] KingSnorky@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

It’s Republican moral bankruptcy and cruelty that we will all suffer. If anyone’s stupidity got us here, it’s the Democratic Party’s stupid leadership since AT LEAST 2000, if not earlier. Republicans have telegraphed their intentions for 50 fuckin years and Democrats continued over and over to attempt reaching across the aisle, trying to pass bipartisan wins, “take the high road,” … all the while the Republican party continued putting their racist, xenophobic, mysoginistic, jingoistic, classist platform out year after year, abandoning all sense of decorum and norms, gerrymandering the fuck out of every district possible, blocking every bill that helps anyone aside from billionaires and corporations, and generally lying and cheating their way to what we have today.

[–] dingus@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

since AT LEAST 2000

Democrats: It's just a coincidence that two lawyers who worked on the Supreme Court case that handed Bush the election in 2000 happen to be Supreme Court Justices today!

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 1 year ago

I think, if there's independent historians in the future looking back, they'll be mentioned in the same sentence as Neville Chamberlain often.

[–] cantstopthesignal@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

We'll see. I think the courts gonna get nuked soon one way or another.