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I enjoyed that episode a lot, although it would have benefitted from its length being tightened up by ten minutes.
What do we think was the nature of the Romulan interference with Earth? And what time period is Sera, the Romulan agent from?
The DTI agent appears to use 29th century tech, which is several hundred years after the Romulan Empire’s supernovae-driven collapse but possibly around the time of the Romulan-Vulcan reunification of Ni’Var. Is she from that same time period?
Sera also shows Kirk a picture of what looks like a TOS-era Bird-of-Prey as part of her alien conspiracy photo deck. It has the round nacelles typical of the 23rd century, rather than those seen in ENT’s 22nd century designs, or some other design representing the 20th/21st century in which these attacks take place.
Is she a time agent from the 23rd century (with the appropriate Romulan ship in orbit)?
Is that her guessing who Kirk is, and planting the evidence he’s most likely to recognize? Or was that really a Romulan design from the 21st century?
Which leads to me wonder if the Romulans started interfering with Earth’s development only due to temporal war shenanigans, or had they been doing flybys for as long as the Vulcans?
Never thought that letting an episode run longer in streaming would be viewed as a negative.
I wouldn’t have cut anything.
I agree. I'm usually the first to complain when it's obvious a show/movie needed an editor to cut unnecessary filler but this this episode used its time well IMO.
I don't think their issue was the length per se. Rather, if you cut it shorter, you quicken the pacing and remove the parts of the story that didn't need to be there. At least that's how I interpret it when someone says runtime could be tightened up.
I suspect we will never get answers to any of that. The DTI has always been more about driving fun plots than establishing any sort of clear worldbuilding about how they work. And that's probably for the best, because time travel really doesn't make much sense, and that only becomes more obvious the longer you spend trying to make it make sense.
Sure, but that clarification only holds until another writer on another time travel episode decides they need different mechanics for whatever story they want to tell. Because time travel is nothing more than a plot device, its nature changes depending on the plot it's facilitating.
Maybe, Sera is from a 29th century Romulan Star Empire that wasn't devastated by a supernova. Could the destruction of Romulus have been the result of a time war?
It's almost a throwaway line but I'm pretty sure she implies 21st century Romulans are interfering with Earth independently, and she's running a parallel mission?