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Leftypol evac (lemmygrad.ml)
submitted 2 months ago by farmer_of_song@lemmygrad.ml to c/comradeship@lemmygrad.ml
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Leftypol, afaik, has always been a glowop, and the government seem intent on crushing its support of Z and Gaza. Currently, the level of NAFO attack is increasingly high, and with an appropriate level of human, automated, and semi-automated attack, we could go under, especially since mods want it to collapse. How would you feel about an evac? I understand you do need to filter as Leftypol is very loosely moderated. And do you have plans if government troll farms go after you as well?

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[-] comfy@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Leftypol and CSAM is more an issue of Leftypol being immersed in chan culture, where dumping CSAM is a common troll

This is not the reason. Most CSAM on imageboards (as with any open forum or comment section) is commercial advertising. Someone did a decent write-up here. [warning: post is on an imageboard thread, a couple of the replies later are edgy or dumb racist crap]

Like the thread says, even in raids it's a very, very rare tactic.

You are right about the moderation being slow to respond, as well as failing to put in automated defenses like leftychan and nuclear change.

[-] ghost_of_faso2@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

This is not the reason. Most CSAM on imageboards (as with any open forum or comment section) is commercial advertising. Someone did a decent write-up here. [warning: post is on an imageboard thread, a couple of the replies later are edgy or dumb racist crap]

I agree that the actual CSAM on leftpol is spammers trying to advertise or hurt the site, however they also tolerate loli porn and have historic roots to 8chan. The lax moderation tells me its more likely on purpose given the roots of the admin staff and the fact that people bring this up, all the time to the admins publically, they ignore it.

[-] comfy@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago

however they also tolerate loli porn

Ah, I wasn't even thinking about non-photo stuff. I don't know enough so I'll take your word on that one. They would definitely do their best to delete the photo stuff, because it's capitalist advertsiting, spam, disgusting to the point users would leave the site and also grounds for being reported to their server host. But I can't say I would be surprised whichever way they approached cartoon stuff, and I think it's reasonable to bring up 'chan culture' there.

I don't think the historical roots to 8chan are particularly relevant to this issue, because looking at 8/leftypol/ on the wayback archive, they explicitly had an anti-loli rule. It was just one board at the time rather than the collection it is now, so 8chan's notorious freeze peach US Libertarian liberalism didn't apply to /leftypol/ then.

[-] ghost_of_faso2@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 months ago

I don’t think the historical roots to 8chan are particularly relevant to this issue, because looking at 8/leftypol/ on the wayback archive, they explicitly had an anti-loli rule. It was just one board at the time rather than the collection it is now, so 8chan’s notorious freeze peach US Libertarian liberalism didn’t apply to /leftypol/ then.

I find that hard to argue, sharing a board with a website hosting actual CSAM (as well as q-anon shit and conspiracy up the ass) is a terrible look

[-] comfy@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

8ch was the reddit of imageboards in more ways than one; reddit infamously hosted /r/jailbait and other horrible subreddits for many years. Socialist subreddits (incl. those which were historical roots of lemmygrad.ml) weren't really affected by reddit also having CSAM, fascist, etc. boards because one can completely ignore they exist elsewhere on the site. The same was how /leftypol/ was. And in both cases, the community was on a crappy site because it's free hosting, there's no implied common values.

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