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The territorial violation by China is the latest in a series of events amplifying tensions between Beijing and Japan.

A Chinese military surveillance plane breached Japanese airspace off the country’s southwestern coast on Monday, marking what Japan’s defense ministry described as the first known incursion by China’s military into its territorial airspace.

According to a ministry official, a Chinese reconnaissance aircraft briefly entered Japanese territory near Nagasaki Prefecture around 11:30 a.m. on Monday. In response, Japan’s Self-Defense Force put fighter jets on high alert and issued a warning to the Chinese aircraft.

While Chinese planes frequently appear in international airspace around Japan, this incident represents the first confirmed entry of a military aircraft into Japan’s territorial airspace.

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[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 88 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Meh, Turkey shot down a Russian jet and nothing happened a handful of years back. Can you really be that mad when a fighter breaching protected airspace is shot down?

[–] OpenStars@discuss.online 25 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's not about "mad", it's about pushing boundaries. If they decide they want to...

[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 35 points 2 months ago (1 children)

it’s about pushing boundaries.

China is going to keep pushing boundaries until they get punched in the mouth.

[–] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They need a bigger plane that can just drop a net on the other plane and tow it in to Japan and give the pilot a stern talking to, and then they take the plane apart and send it back in a box. Dismantling the pilot optional.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

Im thinking the plane kidnapping jet scene in the last Dark Knight film.

[–] limonfiesta@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yes, you can.

Russia and Turkey have very different political dynamics than China and Japan.

Also, these types of airspace incursions, followed by intercepts, are pretty standard amongst major powers.

It doesn't mean they're benign, but that shooting down Chinese planes intentionally as a response, is something you do if you're willing and ready for the escalation path to result in open conflict, not simply an escalation.

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Whereas these airspace incursions are just… something you do?

[–] limonfiesta@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

They have been a staple of great power competition since the Cold War, as a means of political signaling, military posturing, and gathering of intelligence.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I mean, sure. When you have the world by the balls because you produce nearly 100% of all the worlds goods, what are you going to do? Say no?

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

China’s manufacturing capability is economically important in the short term but should hardly be looked at as a stranglehold on the entire world. Different countries have previously held the crown for “manufacturer of the world’s cheap rubbish” and India and Vietnam are currently vying for their turn to wear it. China will lose their supremacy before they’re able to do anything f politically strategic with it on the global scale.

[–] Cyberjin@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Turkey isn't reliant on Russia, while Japan is very reliant on China.

China is a baby when it comes to politics, gets mad and never apologizes over the smallest thing.

Example when Australia said they wanted an investigation for COVID. China quickly took offense and banned coal, beef and wine imports.

Another example when Japan released Fukushima water into Ocean (following protocol). China got mad because Japan were "polluting" the water, so they banned fish imports from Japan. Irony is that China does it way worse and unregulated.

Just think what this airplane could start if they shoot it down.

[–] lemmyseikai@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Why is Japan reliant on China?

[–] Cyberjin@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Japan 🗾 is very isolated and everything is made in China. Even a lot of food imports are from China too. If you go to local supermarket in Japan, a lot of meat are labeled from China or "overseas" to hide it.

Personally I'm been trying to avoid as much I can because China doesn't have the best record when it comes hygiene and food safety.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

How about human rights? What's their record with that?

[–] Cyberjin@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Um China has a really bad record with human rights, I could write a book 😅 but a prime example is the ugyhurs genocide that's still going on today.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Yes......that was the joke.

[–] lemmyseikai@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Food makes sense.

Manufacturing AFAIK is moving to the US since Japan can't afford the insecurity of dealing economically with China for goods.

[–] Vilian@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago

It's Russia, they are getting invaded, and they started the invasion lmao, not sure if Chinese military is as bad