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They've got a lot more resolve than I do. I'd have walked out long before this point, but had I been told that before going out on my run, I would have literally walked out there and then.
I've walked out of jobs for less.
It’s very easy to chest pound when you’re not having to make that same decision under the same circumstance in the moment - we don’t know what this guy‘s work prospects are or other factors that may have contributed to why he worked there as long as he did.
Maybe it wasn’t your intention, but your comment does seem to have some judgment behind it and I don’t think that’s right.
Maybe unpopular but I feel that it's encompassed in "resolve". It doesn't get easier because you have no choice. Personally I didn't see any judgement but maybe that's just me.
It's a nice compliment. I wonder if it could be inaccurate. Could a person with very little resolve be so absolutely desperate they hang on to a job that is killing them mentally and physically? Just out of fear of the alternative.
So, not “fixity of purpose”.
IDK here, hope you or others have input. (Silly downvoters above, honestly, this is an acceptable discussion to have, no one mandates the upvote if one disagrees.)
I don't think so, it takes some amount of strength no matter the circumstances. Maybe to them this is "less of a suffering" compared to whatever options they have but it's the same toll nonetheless. People in those situations simply have more resolve because of their circumstances off the bat.
Well, remember also that mentally, we also build our own prisons.
I absolutely was stuck in a job that was crushing my soul because I was getting paid better than worse jobs in the surrounding area, I wasn't forced on my feet all day...
...So I felt like I had no choice, and that it was the best I could do in the moment. So I kept going back. Even though every day I wanted to just set the place on fire and never look back.
yeah no see the difference between you and the guy who worked this job, possibly the previous commenter and me is that i would've probably just starved to death at this point.
If these are the options, you clearly don't want people living here, i'll take my leave then. As an individual with free will, this is one of the options granted, why not take it up.
I feel like you don’t recognize the existence of outside factors.
i mean yeah obviously, but for some people those are vastly different, for someone who has a family, that's probably their number one concern, for someone who doesn't they've likely got very different concerns.
If the driver put up with everything until this point, then they probabbly didn't have a lot of better options. It's easy enough to say stuff like this, but not everyone has the freedom to quit when unemployment means your family goes back to the foodbank or moves into the car.
It's not necessarily a lack of options, it's also about the inertia of having the job and getting over the hump of deciding to look elsewhere. You know you can get another job, but doing that is work, so you have to decide if the BS of the current job is enough to warrant the effort of finding a new place.