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The Brazilian president, Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva, has said he hopes the crisis surrounding the social network X in Brazil might teach the world that “it isn’t obliged to put up with [Elon] Musk’s far-right free-for-all just because he is rich”.

Lula’s comments to the network CNN Brasil came after the supreme court voted unanimously on Monday to uphold the ban on X, which is now largely inaccessible in one of its biggest global markets.

The suspension was first ordered on Friday as a result of the company’s refusal to obey court orders requiring the removal of profiles accused of spreading disinformation and for the social network to name a local legal representative.

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[–] trevor@lemmy.blahaj.zone 184 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Lula is so fucking great. He's literally just backing up the courts that are applying the law fairly and as-written, which is more than I can say for most leaders.

[–] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Don't get me wrong, Lula is correct on this. But he's still a scummy politician who has a questionable past

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 78 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Raising 20 million Brazilians out of poverty, while making his country the 8th largest economy in the world? I'm sure he's as corrupt as any Brazilian politician, but none of them have anything that comes even close to that to show for it.

[–] Xanis@lemmy.world 29 points 3 months ago

It's politics. You could have some shoplifting charge from 40 years ago and people will yell about how you're the worst and attempt to invalid everything you do because of it.

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

He also got arrested for one of the largest corruption scandals in the history of Brazil. It’s a complex person. We can criticize his vices and praise his virtues at the same time.

[–] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 27 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Oh arrested? Wow, only guilty people are arrested by states led by their fascist political rivals. If he's arrested, he must be guilty. That's how justice works.

You could've said "convicted", but that was annulled and a UN human rights committee found that:

The committee concluded that prosecutors and the lead judge in the investigation, Sergio Moro, showed bias in Lula's case, violating his right to be presumed innocent.

I'm not a fan of politicians in general, but I'd take these charges more seriously if the people prosecuting them weren't so flagrantly politically motivated and breaking the rules. Presumably the reason he was tried in the wrong court was because the state was shopping for a judge that wouldn't give him a fair trial. If he's that guilty, they've muddied the waters by not actually caring about his guilt, and it's going to be way harder to get anything to stick anymore. Like they were in charge of the whole fucking country, how were they this bad at persecuting him?

What I do know is that when a fascist like Bolsonaro is that mad at you, you might actually be doing something right.

[–] PyroNeurosis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

To be fair, you don't have to be doing anything for fascisti to hate you. That's kinda their schtick.

[–] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 2 points 3 months ago

Cooking up charges and rigging a court case specifically to take you down is a different level of hate though.

[–] Kalysta@lemm.ee 3 points 3 months ago

What’s the questionable past?