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[–] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 33 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Jesus. When I was 14 I was playing with action figures. I can't imagine what would drive a 14 year old to want to hurt people at this scale.

[–] zabadoh@ani.social 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I imagine something similar to Columbine: Unchecked bullying culture in the student body.

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Bullying has always been part of human nature. Mass shootings are a modern phenomenon. They also didn't become widespread until well after it was possible to obtain the weapons necessary to carry one out. Bullies are a factor but it's a far more complex subject than that issue alone can explain.

[–] zabadoh@ani.social 12 points 2 months ago

I was bullied as a kid, and if it had been that easy for me to get guns back then I would have seriously looked into it.

Yeah, it is that simple.

The relatively recent accessibility of guns everywhere in some parts of the country makes gun tragedies a lot more likely.

Whether it's bullying at school, domestic partner violence, or cops having to shoot first because a perp on the street is much more likely to have a gun than other countries.

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Mass shootings have been around since the 1700s.

https://www.bustle.com/articles/141151-was-columbine-the-first-school-shooting-in-the-united-states-sue-klebold-finally-speaks-out-on

Kids shooting people in school has been around just as long. Usually they shot teachers. Note that parents were concerned about the safety of kids bringing pistols to school even back during the pioneer days:

https://www.k12academics.com/school-shootings/history-school-shootings-UNITED-STATES

People today have access to much more deadly weapons.

[–] zabadoh@ani.social 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

In the long history of schools around the United States, of course school shootings had to start some time.

The problem is that they're growing exponentially in number, especially in the last decade or so:

https://publications.aap.org/pediatrics/article-abstract/153/4/e2023064311/196816/School-Shootings-in-the-United-States-1997-2022?redirectedFrom=fulltext

  • 15 in school year 2009-2010
  • 18 in 2010-2011
  • 16 in 2011-2012
  • 26 in 2012-2013
  • 46 in 2013-2014
  • 43 in 2014-2015
  • 38 in 2015-2016
  • 48 in 2016-2017
  • 89 in 2017-2018
  • 115 in 2018-2019
  • 116 in 2019-2020
  • 146 in 2020-2021
  • 328 in 2021-2022

Absolutely fucking horrific.

[–] Soup@lemmy.cafe 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)
[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 months ago

I doubt it. Don't get me wrong, I am not defending those fascists, but a 14 year old (freshman?) is not going to just up and kill a bunch of people over politics they almost definitely do not care about one bit.

[–] lemmyman@lemmy.world -4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's kind of an unnecessary leap.

[–] Soup@lemmy.cafe 2 points 2 months ago

Nowadays? No, it really isn’t.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

He’ll “be tried as an adult” because nothing matters and what if it did.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

I recall plenty of kids that enjoyed hurting others... We need common sense counseling and mental health care checks for students, and for adults in this country.