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A story posted on a mysterious website has been widely circulated on social media after it made a baseless claim that Kamala Harris - the Democratic presidential nominee - was involved in an alleged hit-and-run incident.

It claims, without providing evidence, that a 13-year-old girl was left paralysed by the crash, which it says took place in San Francisco in 2011.

The story, which was published on 2 September by a website purporting to be a media organisation called KBSF-San Francisco News, has been widely shared online. Some online posts by right-leaning users citing the story have been viewed millions of times.

BBC Verify has found numerous false details indicating it is fake and the website has now been taken down.

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Fake news stories targeting the US

The story and the website it originally appeared on share striking similarities with a network of fake news websites that masquerade as US local news outlets, which BBC Verify has previously extensively reported on.

John Mark Dougan, a former Florida police officer who relocated to Moscow is one of the key figures behind the network.

Approached by BBC Verify to comment on the hit-and-run story, Mr Dougan denied any involvement, saying: “Do I ever admit to anything? Of course it’s not one of mine.”

The websites mix dozens of genuine news stories taken from real news outlets with what is essentially the real meat of the operation - totally fabricated stories that often include misinformation about Ukraine or target US audiences.

The websites are often set up shortly before the fake stories appear on them, and then go offline after they serve their purpose.

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[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 35 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Fact checking and clarifying fake news is not amplifying it, especially when it is already this widely spread.

[–] psvrh@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Yes it is.

You might not wish it to be, but fact-checking absolutely does amplify fake news, especially if you give details.

A simple “this story is bullshit” is all that’s needed

[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 14 points 2 months ago (2 children)

A simple “this story is bullshit” is all that’s needed

That's what this is? I don't know what else you see or how your "this story is bullshit" wouldn't amplify it either then.

[–] y0kai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 months ago

Exactly lol "this story is bullshit" with no further explanation is exactly what someone who is full of shit would say.

[–] psvrh@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago

Again, it's "Don't quote the troll". Some of us learned this in Usenet in the 1990s.

Saying "This is bullshit" or "You're weird" without engaging with their ideas stops the contagion from spreading.

[–] Xero@infosec.pub 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

No, fact checking is not amplifying it is correcting the narrative.

[–] psvrh@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago

It is, though. Studies in disinformation have proven this. This is why right-wing bullshitters are so eager to engage in debate: just getting the chance to show up and be refuted in a legitmate setting, like a major newspaper, gives them an audience for the ideas and credibility, that their position is one worthy of refute.

This is how we got the alt-right in 2015: by taking neo-Nazis seriously.

This is what the media doesn't understand, and why fact-checkers are getting--correctly--rolled on social media. Every time you bring up one of these lies, even to fact check it--especially to fact-check it--you give it credibility.

This is why the Harris/Walz campaign's tactic of ridicule is working so well. Instead of saying "No, you're wrong about XXX because YYYY and ZZZZ", they're saying "What is wrong with you? You're weird." The latter doesn't give the lie any oxygen.

[–] absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz 1 points 2 months ago

JD “couch fucker” Vance would beg to differ.

[–] absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz 1 points 2 months ago

JD "couch fucker" Vance would beg to differ.