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I genuinely feel like America bombing the hell out of so many countries in Africa just naturally would endear those countries to anyone except America and their Western vassals, but apparently a lot of twitter users can't seem to comprehend that.

Is whatever debt these countries incur worse than the IMF? Are the consequences anywhere near as bad?

I usually like to start from the position that the leaders of these countries know what they're doing (something Western twitter users don't), so I personally doubt it's anywhere near as bad as people claim, and no matter how bad it is, I don't believe for a moment it could be as bad as the IMF.

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[-] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 10 points 2 months ago

I'm personally trying a different tactic with liberals and instead asking them if they were an African country, given these two possibilities (China or America + other imperialist/former colonialist/neocolonialist countries), who would they honestly consider the better business partner; I'd also remind them Libya (the most prosperous African country) was once really close to America and look where they are now. I'd also ask them if they consider African people mentally inferior because all they have to do is hear what African leaders who denounce the US and France (and Germany in at least one case) have to say and whether they think African people aren't intelligent enough to choose for themselves. I tell them Africa's former colonial masters certainly felt African people weren't capable of governing themselves, perhaps they think Africa should be run by Western countries again (or I will the next time this comes up).

Of course the people on the other side of this question are liberals; I'm not getting my hopes up. As BlackAdder once said: "The eyes are open, the mouth moves, but Mr Brain has long since departed, hasn't he, Perce?"

[-] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 7 points 2 months ago

I'd be interested to hear if you have any success!

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