537
submitted 2 weeks ago by vegeta@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[-] Wrench@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

Who is defending Britain's colonialism? I'm pushing back at some pretty extreme historical recharacterizations.

This is all some pretty ridiculous Captain Hindsight retconning. There have been tons of agricultural blunders in humanities history. Depletion of soils, monocultures extremely susceptible to disaster, etc.

We learn and adapt. That's humanity.

Resource mismanagement is certainly a factor, and colonies were obviously rife with it. And just as obviously, the conquerors historically didn't exactly care much about the damage they did.

In nature, species boom when there's abundance, and rubber band back hard when scarcity hits directly after a big boom.

At a glance, India's population was almost 10% of the world population during WW2.

Literally laying all the blame at the feet of British mismanagement is a pretty extreme take.

[-] Objection@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago

So now we've veered into full-blown Malthusianism. You can't treat human populations the way you treat animal populations. More humans means more people working and growing food, whereas animals simply graze or hunt on preexisting resources. Malthusian claims have been thoroughly debunked repeatedly throughout history, and have never been backed by any sort of evidence whatsoever.

Again, if you choose to reject history and evidence in favor of knee jerk defending colonialism and using long discredited theories, then I don't really see what I can do here. You are simply wrong and in contradiction of scholarly work on the subject.

[-] Wrench@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

Rofl. That's rich coming from someone making wild claims, whose only citation was one sentence from a Churchill hit piece that contained zero justification for their assertion that Churchill was somehow responsible for India's famines. You then deflect with "read this persons work you ignorant simpleton" without any relevant citations.

Sure buddy. You can keep raging against this machine of yours, I've wasted enough of my Friday trying to reason with a dramatic husky.

[-] Objection@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago

I haven't made any wild claims at all and the claims I have made I've backed up with scholarly works, but go off I guess.

this post was submitted on 04 Sep 2024
537 points (98.0% liked)

politics

18874 readers
3713 users here now

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.
  2. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  3. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  4. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive.
  5. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  6. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That's all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Political Discussion

Ask Politics

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS