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We used to have earbuds that don't need to be charged because they had a headphone jack, didn't get lost so easily because they had a cord attached to a headphone jack, never lost the bluetooth connection because they had a headphone jack, and they cost less because they had a headphone jack. https://bsky.app/profile/daisyfm.bsky.social/post/3l3mfjc6sn62k

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[–] Poem_for_your_sprog@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

4 - Audio quality. Since these are expensive drivers, you’re often going to get better sound quality

Heheheheheheh

No.

Bluetooth bitrate is like 328kbps, which is absolute and total garbage mp3 quality. If you're on Bluetooth, you aren't even getting CD quality. We're going backwards so far.

[–] mint_tamas@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It’s a bit more complicated than that. There are multiple codecs available (some with much higher bitrates), but even in AAC (which I assume you are referring to) there are different implementations. Also note that 328kbps is not “garbage mp3”, 128kbps CBR was the common (and shit) variant that you probably meant. But more modern codecs achieve much better fidelity at lower bitrates even.

[–] Poem_for_your_sprog@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

328kbps is absolutely horrid and nowhere close to CD quality (1411 kbps). Good quality audio is over 6000 kbps.

[–] mint_tamas@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

328kbps in a lossy format is plenty. You might be one of those people who claim to hear the difference, but to date we are yet to see a double blind trial where a substantial percentage of individuals reliably could demonstrate such ability.

[–] Poem_for_your_sprog@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

328 kbps is nowhere near enough. 1411 kbps .wav is the minimum I'll listen to, even on my phone.

24 bit 96kHz is optimal, but I can't hear any difference going higher than that.

[–] MoogleMaestro@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

As someone who uses FLAC for all of my audio needs, yeah I agree that Bluetooth bitrate is pretty bad (and often uses the lower quality.)

But this image is basically claiming that "cheap passive" plug-ins are superior to the more expensive bluetooth ones. That's simply not true. My experience with those have basically always been bad, so I'm not a big fan of ear buds to begin with over headphones. I don't take the person in the image that OP posted is all that worried about lossless (or even high quality lossy) and is more concerned with money to value. So while the analogue audio out can be high quality, you're simply not benefitting from it if you buy any sub $100 earbuds where the EQ profiles are all trash. And if you're going to spend over $100, at that point you may as well go for the bluetooth connected for all of the other pros mentioned.

I am a firm believer that super-high-quality seekers already know what they want: Over the ear cans that deliver awesome sound and have noise cancelling by their sealed design. They were never the people buying throw away headphones anyway. That's basically why I said that they're great but certainly not for anyone who wants to do professional audio (unless for sound testing what normal humans are likely to hear, ofc.)

edit: Oh and, just to be clear, I think every phone should have a headphone jack as well because the option for analogue is important! I wouldn't say I'm 100% thrilled with less options, mind you.