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Why exactly should we support Russia and oppose Ukraine? (asking in good faith) (lemmygrad.ml)
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Also, what is the evidence that the War in Donbass was an act of genocide on the part of Ukraine, and that Ukraine had provoked Russia? Once again, I am asking in good faith, I am merely looking for the truth.

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[–] davel@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

robbing the US taxpayers for years

This bit I disagree with because 1) The US taxpayer doesn’t really fund anything, and 2) Ukraine isn’t getting hand-outs but lend-leases.

[–] ChuzaUzarNaim@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This. This. A thousand times this. The American empire doesn't do these things for free. I'm sure certain Americans are very interested in ~~exploiting Ukraine's mineral wealth~~ working in partnership with the Ukrainian people to develop their economy.

Possibly unpopular to say here, but aside from the government itself and certain elements of the state, I actually do have sympathy for the Ukrainians, insofar as they were misled into the war by the yanks and the West in general. So many dead, for nothing, for less than nothing.

[–] davel@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 months ago

I wonder how many were misled. Maybe 20% fled the country; presumably many more would have if they had the means. Some are being pulled from streets and pushed to the front lines. Some are fascists who needed no misleadership. How many does that leave, the ones who were/are duped?

[–] Mzuark@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 months ago

Oh. Well that blows a hole in my rhetoric, I better not let anyone know about that.