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She set a tone at the very start when she walked right into his space to shake his hand and made him almost pull back into himself in response. She was in charge and never stopped being in charge. 

Harris also managed what neither Joe Biden nor Hillary Clinton nor any of the 2016 Republicans managed to do which is successfully bait Donald Trump and get under his skin. Within a few minutes Trump was visibly angry and not in a way that empowered him but in a way that made him lose focus, go down rabbit holes and generally go off onto damaging tangents. Spittle anger, not righteous anger, shall we say.

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[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 121 points 2 months ago (5 children)

From what I've been seeing around the internet, Republicans are convinced that the debate was rigged. Harris was given the questions in advance, the moderators were biased, etc. etc.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 137 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So they are making excuses for Trump, which can only mean they could see that he lost.

I also heard that Trump was alone against 3. I guess because they called out a couple of his lies, especially the insane bit about emigrants eating peoples pets in Ohio.

So apparently some Republicans are not happy with how he did in the debate.

[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

Some Republicans, like all of the ones endorsing Harris, but Trump's MAGA core voting base is still shielded by their reality distortion field where Trump "won".

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 89 points 2 months ago (1 children)

She actually prepared for the debate! And she's actually competent at this sort of thing! Totally rigged!

[–] Pips@lemmy.sdf.org 40 points 2 months ago

She's a litigator, she treated it like court. Very effective when your opposition makes insane rants.

[–] ValorieAF@lemmy.world 45 points 2 months ago

So it was rigged, but they won? Hmm sounds familiar

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 39 points 2 months ago

Harris was given the questions in advance

It would need a particular stupid person not to know what kind of topics/questions will come up in such a debate.

[–] Gerudo@lemm.ee 28 points 2 months ago (2 children)

So I flipped over to Fox News right after to see how they would spin the debate. Everyone spins this stuff, it's normal, but after that debate, I wanted to see how bad it would be. Well, Hannity was on, and you can imagine how it went. They said Harris was weak, didn't have answers or dodged the questions, had weird faces, and then they just regurgitated his flat-out lies.

I couldn't even watch 10 minutes because it was so painfully obvious they were just lying through their teeth, and it was so desperate sounding that to a non-R voter, it came across as them not even watching the debate.

There is spin, then there is flat out lieing.

[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago

I couldn't even watch 10 minutes because it was so painfully obvious they were just lying through their teeth, and it was so desperate sounding that to a non-R voter, it came across as them not even watching the debate.

I think that may be their strategy. They assume a lot of their base doesn't want to watch the debate, instead they just tune in after the fact, and they get the bizarro universe account of what happened presented as fact and thus feel more validated in their beliefs.

[–] Eatspancakes84@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It’s crazy how much things have changed in 8 years. Before Trump came on the scene, Fox was very biased, but their stories had a basis in fact. 4 years ago they had gone down the drain, but still prevented a coup by calling AZ for Biden. Now they tell lies about as frequently as Trump.

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

I think the change came with Obama, but that’s also around the time I moved out of the place where I heard it all the time, so it could just be that that’s when my normal meter was reset.

[–] Gerudo@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago

4 years ago? They kept repeating birtherism lies about Obama from day 1. The second Trump was a candidate, they flipped to unbased conspiracy theories. We are almost at 16 years of this bullshit.