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Unpopular opinion: She would also be harassed if she had endorsed Trump.
EDIT: I'll admit, I got curious about what kind of comments a celeb gets on social media after endorsing Trump. Some people have said that they deserve the harassment, which is at least honest. To be totally clear, I think that Trump is uniquely evil in the modern history of America. He is a grifter and I don't see how anyone could support him or his policies. He is a racist, chauvinist, likely rapist, dangerous for our economy, physical safety, and basic rights.
My only point is that maybe we shouldn't be so quick to throw stones. Taking a political stand is risky for any celebrity, and we should be respectful of people when they do. Also, vote early.
Well, you tell me: Is this harassment?
Source.
Also, WOW, corporate social media is really a sad, angry garbage pile. Thank goodness for the fediverse.
Even more unpopular opinion, bigots deserve to be harassed for their bigotry.
Even more unpopular opinion, many bad people deserve many bad things but that doesnt make it okay to commit them.
that being said, I'm well aware of the paradox of tolerance.
We live in a world where hatred is a legitimate political position that can get votes. Unless that is resisted, you will see policies enacted on the basis of hate. Evidence suggests that this is not a good outcome.
I agree with you. the situation is not black and white.
Sure, but
She didn't endorse Harris
If she did endorse Trump, the harassment would have been a magnitude less. Individuals will be individuals, but the leaders of one group are denouncing harassment and violence while the leaders of the other group are inciting it.
I get the logic of this, but you feel pretty confident that it's true. Do you have the numbers to back this up? I believe it is true, but that's not based on any actual evidence.
Sorry if it wasn't clear, maybe I should have said, "I feel the harassment would have been a magnitude less." The rest is pretty provable, in that Drumpf & Co. have been spewing hate and even threatening violence in some cases, while Democrats have general spoken up against violence.
Funny that you pointed out that my questioning of what you claimed was valid, but I was showered with downvotes.
Amazing.
The downvotes are because it seemed that you were asking in bad faith. You said "I believe it is true", but now you say (admit) that you were questioning it.
Confirmation bias is a hell of a drug; I always question whether I simply want something to be true or whether I have the evidence that it is true.
It's scary that self reflection is viewed as bad faith.
Well, there you are again. You said "my questioning of what you claimed". That isn't self reflection. If you aren't asking in bad faith, you need to spend more time on your wording.
You just quoted me saying "I believe it's true" but now you are saying that I'm not self reflecting because I noted that another also believes it to be true and they originally stated it.
You keep accusing me of acting in bad faith, but I'm beginning to think that this is maybe a projection.
No, I didn't validate your question, just clarified why you were confused. "A magnitude less" is hyperbole and therefore clearly an opinion.
? You said you had no evidence for it and it was just how you feel. I asked if you had evidence for it.
This seems to very clearly validate my question and reveal that I wasn't confused.
Not all Republicans are bad people, but all bad people are Republican.
Not at all. There are plenty of evil "independents" and "centrists". But let's not kid ourselves, there are evil Democrats too.
Still, I get your sentiment.
I'm racking my brain trying to come up with what life situation would possibly lead someone to a position so profoundly detached from reality.
Neurodivergent and terminally online.
Probably the best application of occams razor. lol
Maxx Crosby from the Raiders recently posted a pic with Trump and I was disappointed, but moved on. I'm sure he caught some flack, but probably nowhere near as much as Clark has.
She would be looked down upon. That's not the same thing as harassment.
True but it is not apples to oranges. Look at what these two are saying.
Trump:
Kamala:
This is not Bush or a McCain situation. At least they had some redeeming traits. Hell, they at least loved their kids. A very low bar to trip over.