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Around 83 percent of NASA's facilities are beyond their design lifetimes, and the agency has a $3.3 billion backlog in maintenance.

Having just submitted an article about a commercial spacewalk, I’m depressed that space is destined to be owned by corporations. This won’t get funded. Politicians will point to how much more efficient private companies do this. Eff.

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[–] Crismus@lemmy.world 17 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Yet they just keep giving away the NASA budget to private for-profit companies.

[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Well, that's really an attempt at saving money. And it's a strategy that actually works with some of their contractors. (Not so much with Boeing and ULA)

The problem is that they really need more budget. There's absolutely no reason they couldn't have five times the funding they have now. The US military had a budget of 820 billion last year, NASA used 200 million. Meaning, that you could quintuple NASA's budget with an additional 800 million by shifting 0.1% of military funding their way.

Personally, I think NASA is more than 0.1% as important as our military, but that's just me.

[–] lengau@midwest.social 4 points 3 months ago

Just to put that in perspective: that's less than a dollar per American for NASA and over a thousand dollars for the military.

[–] zabadoh@ani.social 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This was by design to kickstart the private industry for space development.

NASA could have just kept building and flying space shuttles, but since the retirement of the space shuttle program in 2011, they were renting payload space on Russian rockets to get stuff into orbit.

Getting off of dependence on Russian rockets turned out to be tremendous foresight.

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Just to add some context: the entire space shuttle program, over its entire life from 1972 to 2010, was reportedly 200 Billion.

In 2010, the yearly U.S. military budget was ~650 billion. And they killed the shuttle for being too expensive because that wasn't spread over enough lunches. (meaning it cost 1.6Billion per launch).

In 2024, even adjusted for inflation, Starliner has already blown past 1.6 Billion per launch (total cost is about 5.8 Billion)

Only Crew Dragon, at 2.4 Billion, has reached parity with what the shuttle cost per launch (inflation adjusted). (Dragon 1, which flew 23 cargo missions, was drastically cheaper).

And both of these are dramatically simpler designs than the space shuttle was.

So it appears that the trajectory is correct, space travel is getting cheaper, but it took a shitload of work to get there, and that's building on top of what the Shuttle program taught us.