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I am shocked. Shocked! /s

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[–] Eiri@lemmy.ca 20 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I understand that they need to diversify so that they're not so dependent on Google's default search engine money. I don't know how they should do that.

But I'm not sure what they've been doing has been all that good of an idea.

[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

make their browser engine useable for 3rd parties and sell support, make an electron-like product and add premium features… there are so many browser-based products that people sell, and owning 1 of the only viable browser engines should be huge… the fact that firefox is still only barely able to be embedded is a travesty

it’d be especially valuable if they made a premium electron product that provided security/privacy guarantees, performance benefits, etc - they should siphon some of the profit off the number of for-profit companies that build electron apps

[–] Eiri@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I kinda like the idea but I also kinda hate it.

I really wish PWAs worked properly cross-platform instead. :(

[–] toastal@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

SSB was killed after it sat behind an about:config flag, then their telemetry (that most power users disable) reported folks weren’t using. But what average users would be using a setting they would need to poke around to find. It’s a real shame too since I want to say it was PeppermintOS that was largely built around PWAs.

[–] Eiri@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] toastal@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago

Pretty standard for Mozilla logic if you have watched the features cut over the years.

[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 1 points 1 month ago

totally agree, but also you can do more with an electron-like app - elevated privileges, less sandbox, etc because the user expects such things from an installed “native” app

[–] slacktoid@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

well paying execs multimillion dollar salaries aint helping thats for sure!

Also. What's the point of their mastodon server? It's cool but so what

[–] TheFrirish@jlai.lu 3 points 1 month ago

They're 80% dependent on google there is no choice. Mozilla's behaviour since they got the google deal was the begining of the end. I honestly believe that due to Mozilla's current leadership it would be best for open source developers to all refocus on the ladybird project. I don't have any affiliation to that project and I understand how huge of an undertaking it is to build a web engine from scratch but the gecko engine is polluted by the Mozilla's execs and by extension Google.

To make it clear Google controls Firefox by, in practice, owning an 80% share of Mozilla.