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Why are Ultras anti-LGBT? (lemmygrad.ml)

submitted 1 year ago by suggsjackal@lemmygrad.ml to c/comradeship@lemmygrad.ml

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This doesn't make any sense to me. I know they aren't Marxists, but the goals of communism are people-centric. We're trying to achieve a better society for all people, so why exclude certain groups from that?

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[–] SovereignState@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I am curious what ultras you are specifically talking about.

I agree with the other commentors regarding the nature of ultraleftism, but I am a bit confused. Is "Ultras" being used in a different manner here?

When I was considering myself a "Maoist", the circles I was active in were often very LGBT+ inclusive (to a fault, at times - by this I mean taking ultraleftist lines on the LGBT+ question of liberation a la plastering arcane propaganda on building walls like "Death to Truscum", a term mostly only known by the chronically online). Same with anarchists. Which ultras in particular are this LGBTphobic? I'm not trying to defend ultras here, but I have interacted with just as many, if not more, bigoted "Marxist-Leninists" as ultras.

[–] lemat_87@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Please excuse my ignorance, but I am confused who is to consider as ultra. In my country, sometimes some socdems are considered as far left 🤣🤦🏻‍♂️I suppose in US it is the same, according to Fux news, Bernie and Kamala are ultras 🤦🏻‍♂️

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Conservatists can't even make a difference between anarchist and succdem, not to mention between trot and maoist*, for them, everyone left of Reagan is "far left".

*To be honest lately i also have that problem somewhat, it's hard when so many of them are COINTELPRO centrist and support nazis all the time.

[–] SovereignState@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

hahaha I feel you hard on your second paragraph, I feel like there should be a drinking game where comrades read shitty "communist" articles and try to decipher the ideological bent of the authors, maybe called "Maoist, Trotskyist, Anarchist?"

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago

USwCC - Utopian Socialism with CIA Characteristics.