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Being a lefty in the US (lemmygrad.ml)

submitted 1 month ago by RedClouds@lemmygrad.ml to c/comradeship@lemmygrad.ml

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I ain't young, but this is my first election where I am a real lefty, and... Has it always been this bad?

The liberal seething is just disgusting right now. You can't be on any place of the internet that has any discussion about politics whatsoever.

If you suggest that the Democrats should be better, then you get called out for trying to make Trump president

If you respond that now is the time to actually put pressure on candidates because they're running for office and in any fucking reasonable place, this is where they would make campaign promises and you can demand stuff out of them, then they say that you're being a fascist.

The liberal propaganda is just mind numbing.

Even the traditionally leftist places on Reddit (a place I visit very infrequently, so small changes add up over time when I visit and see the crazies have come out of the woodworks) are getting inundated with a bunch of "but the GOP is worse", and "we have to compromise" and blah blah blah. Even in some commie spaces.

Like I understand not being a doomer, and trying to actually make things better in the meantime while we build forces for the revolution, but holy shit, it's like Anyone to the right of Marxist Leninists have immediately caved to pressure.

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[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I live in the US and have been following politics since before 9/11. In online spaces it's become worse, especially after 2014.

[–] OrnluWolfjarl@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Fair enough. My main experience has been with Reddit (and Youtube early on), as well as a few forums here and there. Consistently, if I ever brought up any of the third candidates, even as a question, I'd be attacked as a shill for the other side trying to waste votes. I'll admit that now, because media has become deranged as well, people are a lot more willing to act fervently and lash out. But I've been seeing the basic behaviour since forever ago.

And back when I first started getting involved in online discussions, you still had the whole "patriotism" parade going on as well. I've been called "Unamerican" multiple times (people just assuming I was American in the first place), I've been chastised and banned for "not respecting the troops", I've been reprimanded for calling out the stance of candidates on the wars in the Middle East. And especially during election season, if I were to mention that I'm a communist, the American conservatives would almost always conflate me with a liberal, and the American liberals would almost always conflate me with a conservative.