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I ain't young, but this is my first election where I am a real lefty, and... Has it always been this bad?

The liberal seething is just disgusting right now. You can't be on any place of the internet that has any discussion about politics whatsoever.

If you suggest that the Democrats should be better, then you get called out for trying to make Trump president

If you respond that now is the time to actually put pressure on candidates because they're running for office and in any fucking reasonable place, this is where they would make campaign promises and you can demand stuff out of them, then they say that you're being a fascist.

The liberal propaganda is just mind numbing.

Even the traditionally leftist places on Reddit (a place I visit very infrequently, so small changes add up over time when I visit and see the crazies have come out of the woodworks) are getting inundated with a bunch of "but the GOP is worse", and "we have to compromise" and blah blah blah. Even in some commie spaces.

Like I understand not being a doomer, and trying to actually make things better in the meantime while we build forces for the revolution, but holy shit, it's like Anyone to the right of Marxist Leninists have immediately caved to pressure.

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[–] MatBC@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I've heard good things about the APL(American party of labour) and there are some comrades from CPUSA around here, seek out one or the other, or if you find any Marxist organization around you and join the struggle, being a Marxist in isolation is somewhat contradictory and very saddening as well, seek an organization (assuming you have the time and energy for it) and work together

[–] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

CPUSA is exactly what OP is complaining about, they endorsed Biden before he dropped out lol.

If you want a principled non-reformist party in the USA you'll have to look farther than CPUSA because they are Democrats in red

[–] MatBC@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 month ago

Maybe APL could be better at any rate I believe organizations at least in the west retroceded rapidly since the fall of the Berlin wall, the loss of the USSR, for a bunch of reasons contributed (directly and indirectly) the structure of Marxists organizations to un-radicalize. The best example in recent memory of Marxist organization on the US is in my opinion the black panthers, particularly in Fred Hampton's time. We should go into that direction, do collective action towards empoverished populations. Work with them for them, take Marxism out of the college grounds and into the back allays where nobody else looks to. Of course that isn't easy, and especially doing it right and respectfully, but it's the only way, without going towards the masses it's just spinning wheels in vain, it goes not very far, refining the theory is helpful but we got to the point that it's all many organizations do and often in the wrong direction. So I don't know how to move things to the right direction but hopefully I kinda painted a picture of where said direction is, now the hard part is to get there.

[–] RedClouds@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 1 month ago

Yeah, the long story short about that is I have made some strides and joined FRSO and have talked to some people, and even was organizing until life caught up recently (medical, work). The group is very small, very limited where I am and I'm outside the city nowadays, so it's a lot harder for me to do in-person events.

Im planning getting re-involved, but that's gonna take awhile unfortunately.