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[–] JustARaccoon@lemmy.world 134 points 2 months ago (6 children)

I'm confused, how can a company that's gained numerous advantages from being non-profit just switch to a for-profit model? Weren't a lot of the advantages (like access to data and scraping) given with the stipulation that it's for a non-profit? This sounds like it should be illegal to my brain

[–] berno@lemmy.world 54 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Careful you're making too much sense here and overlapping with Elmo's view on the subject

[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

A stopped clock is still correct twice a day.

[–] Ragnarok314159@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 months ago

And OpenAI is still less correct than a broken clock.

[–] Subverb@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Guess I'm out of the loop. Who's Elmo?

[–] berno@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 15 points 2 months ago

angry Sesame Street noises

[–] dan@upvote.au 4 points 2 months ago

Elongated Muskrat

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago
[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 43 points 2 months ago

I’m confused, how can a company that’s gained numerous advantages from being non-profit just switch to a for-profit model

Money

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 43 points 2 months ago (2 children)
[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 31 points 2 months ago

Can't do crimes if you're rich. It's in the Constitution

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Money doesn't have any advantages in other countries? When did that happen?

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don't see where I said that.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You can no longer make the same connection you did earlier?

[–] affiliate@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

the person that you’re replying to said something that’s true about the USA. they didn’t say anything about other countries.

for another example, i can say “if you’re in the USA, then the current year is 2024” and that statement will be true. it is also true in every other country (for the moment), but that’s besides the point.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

And I replied that it's also true in other countries, it's not a problem only the US has. It's not besides the point. It's acting as if only the US has the problem.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

And I specifically mentioned the USA because that's the country where OpenAI operates and where the events in the article take place, so if someone asks why it's so easy for OpenAI to go from being a nonprofit to a for-profit company (this was the issue I was responding to, not some general question about whether money has influence around the world), it's the laws of the USA that are relevant, not the laws of other countries.

[–] 108@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago

Money and purchasing the right people.

[–] FatCrab@lemmy.one 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Their non-profit status had nothing to do with the legality of their training data acquisition methods. Some of it was still legal and some of it was still illegal (torrenting a bunch of books off a piracy site).

[–] JustARaccoon@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Well maybe not on paper but they did leverage it a lot when questioned

[–] gencha@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago

These people claimed their product can pass the bar exam (it was a lie). Tells you how they feel about the legal system