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[–] Stern@lemmy.world 110 points 2 months ago (6 children)

You can only get more conservative when you have things to protect like a house and a pension.

Most millennials retirement plan atm is die of heatstroke in 150 degree weather in a 8 person shared apartment in Alaska.

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 60 points 2 months ago

I have a house and a pretty sizable retirement account.

I will GLADLY take a lower home value, higher taxes on my retirement, higher taxes in general, so long as the ultra wealthy are also taxed accordingly.

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 30 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Or you'll get more communist when you have people to protect, like children or friends who start getting sick now that they're not young anymore

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 44 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I became a socialist because I was an "essential employee" during the height of the pandemic. I was treated like shit by my company, the customers, and the government while they sung my praise. I watched my grandpa get good cancer treatment with the VA (shocker, I know, but it happens) while my sister and grandma had to fight insurance for cancer treatment.

We can't make a perfect world, but we can make a better one. And it starts with a socialist economy.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I became much more progressive after living in a “blue state” for much of my adult life. It’s hard to miss that the most successful economies in the us are also the ones who pay most attention to quality of life. We can look at the contrast in our neighboring states, and see the advantages brought by near universal healthcare, investments in an excellent education system, care about the environment, higher minimum wage, support for unions, and so much more

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If you're referring to Nordic Social Democracies, they fund their safety nets via Imperialism, they can't exist without impoverishing and exploiting the Global South. It's the epitome of the Labor Aristocracy.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

No, sorry,I was being us-centric - it seemed like that’s where the thread was.

As one very specific example, when COViD funding for school lunches ended, some us states decided to no longer provide free school lunches. Massachusetts passed a “millionaire tax” and funded free school lunches out of that

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago

It's the same issue as the Nordics, the US is a de-industrialized nation that makes the bulk of its profits off of Imperialism.

[–] GarbageShootAlt2@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

You can only get more conservative when you have things to protect like a house and a pension.

In aggragate, that's the more reliable way to make a population more conservative, but remember that a reasonable portion of fascists in a society that is going in that direction are going to be people who either lost that or never had it and, in either case, blame some minority for that fact. (The majority are still people like you describe, though, the petite bourgeois, etc., who feel insecure in their holdings)

I agree if you mean neoliberal-conservative

[–] turnipjs@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago

I assume they meant conservative, not fascist.

[–] kambusha@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago
[–] Ultraviolet@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

That and the lead poisoning.

[–] untorquer@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Statement unclear whether increased conservatism is the natural result of property/capital or if property/capital are merely requisite.