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[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] Jumpingspiderman@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Capitalism doesn't benefit the vast majority of us. But the purpose of capitalism is to enrich a fortunate few at the expense of the rest of us who will be reduced to perpetual wage slavery until we die. Capitalism is working a treat in that regard.

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago

That point is def made in that link.

[–] Funkytom467@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Have you read my comment?

I know capitalism don't work, everybody does now.

That has nothing to do with the fact we didn't manage to have one successful exemple of communism either...

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't have a post for this, but also as a testament to China's poverty alleviation campaigns, world poverty is increasing if we exclude China.

When they write the history of the early 21st century, China's uplifting of millions of people out of poverty will be one of humanity's greatest acheivements.

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Wrong, from the link I posted:

Capitalist hegemony has short-circuited people into buying wildly illogical and ridiculous propaganda like: "Lift yourselves up by the bootstraps" (which shows the almost religious power of capitalist propaganda, that the impossible can become possible), or "Communism doesn't work", when in fact Communism did work extremely well.

Examples from this post by /u/bayarea415, Stephen Gowans - Do publicly owned, planned economies work, Ian Goodrum - Socialism vs Capitalism and quality of life, and yogthos's USSR acheivements post about the USSR specifically:

When it is claimed that a system works, we should ask, who it works for. Capitalism benefits a tiny number of rapacious capitalists, to the detriment of the rest of us, while Socialism works for the masses.

For an overview of the soviet experiment, watch this brilliant talk by Micheal Parenti, or read his article, Left anticommunism, the unkindest cut.

Also read this great article by Stephen Gowans, Do publicly owned, planned economies work?. Audio on youtube

Bonus vid about cyber-communism: Paul Cockshott - Going beyond money.

More sources: Socialism Crash Course, Socialism FAQ, Glossary.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee -2 points 1 month ago (3 children)

That's all awesome. So it's still around, right? It didn't collapse within one generation or anything, did it?

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What do you believe to be the cause of the fall of the USSR?

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago

The leader of it kinda sold out and started simping for Pizza Hut

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

It was overthrown by the USA, as the USA strangled most attempts worldwide in their cradles also.

Primarily via the arms race in the USSR's case. You can read more about that here:

Stephen Gowans - Do publicly owned, planned economies work,

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Thanks for your reading of Gabriel Rockhill. I’ve seen some of his interviews, and they are impressive.

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No probs. I've yet to read any of his books, but every single article I've read by him is top-notch.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Some interviews from his Critical Theory Workshop

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago
[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago

A US sponsored executive coup is not equivalent to collapsing due to its own problems.