that is just sad. yet so many will say sexism does not exist
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Pretty sure racism is also involved
Intersectionality
It's as if, like, if you are a woman, and also in a disfavoured racial category, like, where they, uh, have overlap? Where they meet? It's not the same as either one individually but its own, I guess nexus? I feel like there's a better word for this
I think it's called a "double minority", but being a woman isn't really a minority tho (edit: not a minority in the context of being 50% of the human population) so I don't know if theres a better term than that.
I feel bad for people who are black, lesbian, neurodivergent, and trans-woman... like that's a quadruple minority.
That's not what minority means in the sociological context. Volume is mathematical. Poor people are a minority and there's more of them than the 1%. Being a minority is about lack of power, prestige and property. And intersectionality is the more formal term, but 'double minority' gets the point across.
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The funny thing is that in my experience female programmers usually have above average skills. I suspect it’s exactly because of this bias against women in tech. Where an average or below average dude can easily get by, this is much harder for women. As a result this bias acts as a kind of filter which results in female programmers being on average a little better than male programmers because all the average or below average ones get filtered out early.
Here's hard data to match your experience:
"This paper presents the largest study to date on gender bias, where we compare acceptance rates of contributions from men versus women in an open source software community. Surprisingly, our results show that women's contributions tend to be accepted more often than men's. However, women's acceptance rates are higher only when they are not identifiable as women. Our results suggest that although women on GitHub may be more competent overall, bias against them exists nonetheless."
That's probably just because women are smarter than men.
I might add, in the hostile environment women may feel compelled to try harder at least to make a point. As in, "I'll show you what I can do".
This is also common in the guitar community. Some women can shred like mofos, and here comes Jim-Bob McGraw saying their playing is tracked etc., ad nauseum
Yeah, online gaming has all but confirmed to me that sexism is very alive and well.
Even more rage inducing these comments would be the same if she wasn't conventionally attractive.
Fucking programmers need a solid clip around the ear.
I was so glad we had a woman join our dev team some months ago. It's more fun, more relaxed and we are able to get better results as we just cover a wider area of skills. People gatekeeping programming to include only men are idiots.
That poor girl. My gf's only female teammate quit last month and i suggested she start grinding leetcode asap. Could you imagine being the only woman on a team? Pretty strong indicator that something is very wrong there.
Eh, my team is this way, but it's because we're aerospace adjacent which further compounds the problem. The only woman on our team is awesome and everyone gets along great. No one has an inflated ego or feels the need to one up each other though, which tends to be the root of the issue in my experience. Lots of tech bros feel the need to put others down, and see women as an easier target unfortunately.
Lots of tech bros
If you want women to feel welcome, you probably shouldn't use gendered slurs.
I think they meant men in specific in this case. I don't know that there's a huge problem of women being sexist against other women in tech.
Still, it's not productive to attribute shitty behavior to gender.
Tbf, the original photo was already discounting her abilities. Saying "can program code" for a lead SWE is saying like "can do calculus" for a physicist.
Also, once you're moderately good at programming, language doesn't matter much. You can pick up a new high level language relatively easily if needed. Low level languages might be harder for some people though, because it takes a fairly different mindset. Personally, I love low level programming, though it's not very time efficient to write.
Yeah, once you've got a few languages under your belt, it's all about concepts. If you end up learning a new language that follows completely different paradigms, you are back to square one. But most of the time you can go like "Ah, so concept X of the new language works similar to concept Y of that language I already know."
I'd be impressed by anyone who could "Hello, world" in MIPS
A hello world in MIPS is impressive by itself.
Am I the only one that doesn't think it's a waste if a gorgeous person does modeling/acting? If I had a body people wanted to ogle I would be using that power 24/7 instead of sitting here in a shitty office under fluorescent lights pretending to care about work while they pretend to care about me.
How the hell does she program in mips? I thought that was a unit of measurement
Some fragile male egos in this thread. Looking forward to your complaints about the Barbie movie. Sad and pathetic.
I don't know what you're talking about. For me the fragile egos are way down the thread, all massively downvoted. The absolute majority is supportive.
Why would anyone care about an hour-long toy commercial?
Because that's not what the movie is at all. It actually spends a fair amount of time mocking consumerism and hating on the negative impact barbie has had on women's self image and feminism. It's actually pretty crass with a lot of offcolor jokes. It's more targeted to adults who had Barbies as kids during on the 80s/90s.
I did the Barbenheimer double bill. The one that felt like a.commercial was the "YU ESS EH" nature of promoting American War interests.
Oppenheimer forces the viewer to strongly consider the awful thing that was done those two days.
I'm as critical of the US as anyone I've met but your take is bizarrely ignorant to what they were trying to do. I feel like you'd have to be intentionally missing the point to come away thinking that movie was pro-america in any way.
Whenever I see someone taking down these absolute bottom of the barrel incel dork on social media, it just feels like shoo-ing a squirrel off the bird feeder. Just not even worth taking action
841st fastest growing company in the us
Weird flex, but ok
So is "I have X points on Stack Overflow".
Also, I'm on the iOS tutorial team for somethingorother.com.
27k points on SO is respectable. I've got 20k and that wasn't easy. There are shortcuts, but to find those you've also got to be clever.
Nope, not really.
Ain’t to many shitposts on stackoverflow and the raywenderlich website is one of the best ios programming resources. This shit is respectable.
It's annoying sometimes that people just assume that those who don't work in tech are completely clueless about tech.
It's also really funny to mess with people who assumes that.
I don't understand why people absolutely need to make everything about man vs woman.
If it was a male model those people would have written exactly the same. If tomorrow comes out an article saying the same thing about bred pitt everyone would be suspicious about that being fake too
Since the two jobs are so disconnected from each other it sounds unlikely and they assumed it was some clickbait fake post, that's all.
I'm absolutely for equality and against any discrimination against women or any other category, but making this into a gender battle is ridiculous
I'm sure she's a programmer. But she's a programmer who drops her Stack Overflow score... let's just say that's a red flag in my book. (For all programmers).
For non programmers, it's like someone dropping their reddit karma score, or the number of their subscribers on Youtube as the first thing they say. Basically "my most important accomplishment is some rather unimportant digits".
(Views matter far more than subscribers on youtube, mostly because subscribers can easily be manipulated)
ITT: basically a reddit comment section on a post with any woman.
Guess the "it feels like Lemmy is more positive" days are over. So it goes.
ITT: people getting upvoted for whining about posts from fragile males, while the few such posts are downvoted to oblivion.
Every top comment is positive, are you deliberately sorting by controversial?
The post looked different 9 months ago.
I didn't realize I was sorting by top of all time, that's my dumbassery at play 😅
What are you talking about? Literally every post with more score than yours is positive and mocking the bigots in the post.
If anything a statement like this reminds me of reddit where <1% has voted and commented but some bad takes are already attributed to the other 99%. (But the good comments are also way older than your post...)
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She makes a valid point, but on the other hand, she causes funny feelies in the incels’ pantsal region.
Basically they're scared and intimidated. Here is a person who is beautiful and intelligent and has made something of herself and that highlights their own inabilities.
I think sexism is only part of the problem, they'd have a similar response to a male model who had a successful tech career.
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