Until for whatever reason Nintendo decides to sell bluetooth headphones, I don’t think we’re losing the headphone jack.
this post was submitted on 20 Jan 2025
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Given how Bluetooth works on the switch 1 it might also just be they couldn't be bothered to make it good.
Good enough reason
I used to walk to all sorts of places when I needed things, or even just for fun, while listening to music or podcasts, when my phone had a headphone jack. Now I never walk anywhere and just about never listen to music on my phone because I can't keep the wireless earbuds connected to the phone or to each other and they're always only at 50-60 percent charge if I'm lucky. Removing the headphone jack from my phone has literally made me less healthy. Thanks, Apple.
If it improves your life and health, buy a headphone dongle. You shouldn’t need to, and it’s fair to complain about spending another $20, but invest in your health before it’s too late.
Nah, I'd prefer to just go without. After all, what's the worst that could happen? I dro
I have a pair of 3 year old Sony ones and they have never died or lost connection. The wired connection was great and I like that its there but these issues aren't realistic, especially given they charge through the same unit as your phone most often.
nintendo is incredibly pragmatic... is it because of battery life?
I think that is one of the reasons, but the main one is probably interference from controllers.
When they added Bluetooth audio to the original switch, they had a limit on the number of controllers you could have connected at the same time (I think it was like two?). So it’s probably the same for switch 2, they just don’t want to deal with it
latency can be a problem, too
doesn’t matter much for calls and music, but timing of gameplay can be harmed with audio lag
This was immediately obvious to me once I tried playing a rhythm game with bluetooth headphones. Never again.
Definitely matters for calls, most wireless headphones lower quality for decreased latency when the microphone is on.
At least that’s my understanding
No, that's because the Bluetooth spec (or codecs, or something) only allow for lower-bandwidth audio in order to support bidirectional streams.
Like if you've got a limited bandwidth, you can run any two of high quality audio, stereo audio, and microphone input. There's not enough for all three.
That's simplified and probably not 100% accurate, but you get the idea. (Latency probably figures in there too, but it's not the primary reason, as far as I know.)
Makes sense, thank you
High latency (multiple seconds) can be a problem for carrying on conversations (calls), but even very small latency (fractions of a second) can be the difference between catching a fish and missing it in ACNH (for example).
True, but I'm not sure how common the use case of having a bunch of controllers connected and Bluetooth audio is. Or even more than one player and wired headphones. I'd imagine almost everyone doing multiplayer is doing it on a TV over HDMI.
Even if it's one player with multiple controllers somehow (two detached joycons, for example), it's unlikely a game would need very many.
I'm guessing at least partly their audience. I haven't kept up with every release, but it seems like Nintendo has always tried to keep their consoles cheaper than the others. And they're popular with families with kids. Kids lose headphones, be they wired or wireless, and replacing a $5 pair of earbuds is way cheaper than wireless ones.
All that hassle to save one square cm of internal phone mass. I guess we'd be thanking them if it ended up being a good idea like killing Flash or disc drives but still, lmao
Lack of head phone on my most used device creates a daily friction that reminds how I am just I hate parasites at these companies making decisions nobody asked for.
Is Nintendo the only console producer whose consoles get used for mega LAN events? I was at a regional Pokemon event the other day where there were 500+ people playing Switch within a few tens of metres of each other. Aside from the fact that wireless gear could enable cheating, the wireless interference would be a real issue.