Off topic, but downvotes are not always an indication that a comment is of low quality.
this post was submitted on 23 Jan 2025
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I've never wanted to engage these people, but after Trump stripped the security from Fauci and Bolton and Pompeo, I have a morbid curiosity to see how'd they justify it. I mean, really, how do you defend stripping protection from your political opponents, who you know are being targeted by extremists, with no real justification or even reasoning beyong them being political opponents?
Don't bother looking for justifications. They are infinite, because they are not honest. If their side does it, they're in favor of it, no matter what they do.
It's best to point out that this is what's going on, that many others don't do this, and after people read your comment, they're left seeing the truth of the soulless, valuelessness of that behavior. It'll make people slightly less likely to do it each time this repeats.
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I've never met a conservative that wasn't a trash human if I dug deep enough.
Universally uninformed and hateful. Prerequisites for the ideology.
I was a conservative. I am not a trash human.......um....I am also not remotely conservative anymore, so...hmmm. 🤔
Perspective is a hell of a drug. Once you do it you can never go back.
I know conservatives that are alright. But they drank the koolaid...
I think a lot of them need an antidote more than exile. But it's hard to find it for them..
They could be allies still.
How?
Users can have upvotes and downvotes disabled in settings so they are never see how many vote up or down.
In my mobile client I don't see down votes and I like it that way. Today I logged in on my desktop and saw them. So I went through my comment history laughing for a while. I think I was down voted the most when I had something negative to say about neoliberals.
I am unbothered being down voted and think generally that the whole upvote tally can lead to groupthink in general. Being able to disable viewing them is a good design choice that could be made better being site | instance wide.
As a social experiment I wonder how much we have become accustomed to internet points as a form of self validation. If a large whole instance was segregated for a month or two and had disabled the voting tally, what would the engagement look like? Is it all ego driven?
I like that lemmy lets you see the upvotes and downvotes separately rather than just an aggregate like Reddit has. It's hard to tell when you see something has 1 or zero votes what people generally think but it might turn out that you have 100 upvotes and 100 downvotes and it just happens to add up to zero but you hit on something that's actually deeply controversial. That info is nice to have.
That is a good argument. It was nice to see that some of my comments were not universally liked and that some kind of broke even.
Totally agree with you in relation to groupthink and it's the main reason I have them disabled too. I don't like my opinion of a comment to be influenced by others before I've even finished reading it.
They absolutely are incapable of believing they are wrong at all. Every solution that includes them being correct or in the right are the only viable ones and everything else is a trick, or a lie, or "buzzword here". They are conspiracy theorists and suffer the same deep logical failings.
They probably thought lemmy was to reddit what truth/gab was to twitter (pre-elon twitter that is), or if you're memory is long enough, voat to reddit.
Like nah dude. Not all social media spinoffs are righties being mad they couldn't drop n-bombs.
I'm here cuz the RedditAlternatives sub on Reddit sent me here. Said it was the most populated Reddit alternative. I thought "Ok, but is it a right wing cesspool". Turns out it's not and the discourse here is much better than on Reddit.
Fellow Reddit refugee here who saw a very similar (possibly the same) post. Opened my eyes to the fediverse and I'm happy I made the jump.
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To narcissists any attention is good attention.
Helping people get off of corporate social media is significantly more important to me than maintaining Lemmy's political identity.
Hopefully the fediverse can serve as a deradicalizing force for these reactionary newcomers. However it is interesting that they would want to use federated social media over corporate social media, given their worldview idolizing the market and meritocracy.
Meh. Lemmy is for them too, even if they are outnumbered.
Does...does it have to be?
I kinda want them here so they can be exposed to leftist ideas and become thigh-high wearing, Linux using furries.
But that's probably just me huffing hopium
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Unpopular opinion, but I don't really mind them, for now. They are not that imposing and I like to see the other viewpoint occasionaly, as I don't use other social networks. Makes me feel like I'm in less of a bubble here.
I'm okay with downvotes.
Most people welcome am end to the echo chamber. The vocal lemmings get quite irate about this subject, however.
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