Political Memes

Perspective is a hell of a drug. Once you do it you can never go back.

I know conservatives that are alright. But they drank the koolaid...

I think a lot of them need an antidote more than exile. But it's hard to find it for them..

They could be allies still.

I kinda want them here so they can be exposed to leftist ideas and become thigh-high wearing, Linux using furries.

But that's probably just me huffing hopium

Totally agree with you in relation to groupthink and it's the main reason I have them disabled too. I don't like my opinion of a comment to be influenced by others before I've even finished reading it.

I like that lemmy lets you see the upvotes and downvotes separately rather than just an aggregate like Reddit has. It's hard to tell when you see something has 1 or zero votes what people generally think but it might turn out that you have 100 upvotes and 100 downvotes and it just happens to add up to zero but you hit on something that's actually deeply controversial. That info is nice to have.

The keyword is viewpoint. The inherent problem with conservatism across the globe, but obviously in the US, is the "viewpoint" is anti-science, anti-common-sense, and at worst disconnected from their policies.

I think there's a place on social media for people who believe tariffs could, over time and at great expense, bring manufacturing home and that some viewpoints want that. That's a viewpoint to debate. I do not think there's a place for people to deny climate change, there is no debate to be had there.

I think there's a place for people who want to discuss immigration policies and how best to balance the need for immigrants, the want for immigrants, the assimilation of immigrants, and the quantity/quality of immigrants. There's system design to be had there. I do not think there's a place for hate speech and dehumanization of immigrants as if they're bad people (or when they're used as political weapons like "caravans" in the US or "Sharia law").

It doesn't matter if conservatives agree with fixing healthcare or being against the rich, their politicians are only interested in using those as talking points because their allegiance is to their biggest donors which is big healthcare and the rich.

Conservatives across the globe, from everything I've seen in my admittedly short lifetime, are either anti-science/progress, pro-hate and emotionbaiting, or obvious liars.

In the US there is no Republican AOC or Bernie Sanders at the national level - who obviously and vocally are fighting for the workers. In Germany (where I am now) it's the conservative AFD party that is a neo-nazi party and it's the conservative CDU party that flirts with giving them partial power just to maintain their own power. Side tangent, it's the libertarian (read conservative-lite) FD party that sabotaged the left leaning coalition just last year.

The people that flirt with destruction and societal regression are the conservatives, so it's important that if they are allowed on any platform that their viewpoints are moderated. At least until they can stop flirting with fascism and lethal policies like remigration.

I don't struggle too hard to empathize with Nazis that have to rent off Liberal spaces.

That's true until you hit advanced IT like Networking, Cyber Security and Systems careers. I'm progressive but most of the older dudes I work with are Def far right Trump supporters. We get paid significantly more as well so you know how money and conservatism goes.

From my experience, people with computer knowledge are usually more progressive

Let me tell you about a time long ago, when it was harder to get on the internet and no one had smartphones and the internet was populated by users who were a whole lot more intelligent and reasonable than what we see today.

I was there. I can verify that the abnormal insanity we see in our politics today began around the same time everyone started walking around with the internet in their hands.